NY Gov. Spitzer Caught in a Honey Trap

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Mel Brooks in blazing SaddlesEliot Spitzer's press conference today

New York Governor Eliot Spitzer at today’s embarassing press conference. Silda, Spitzer’s wife of 21 years, puts on a brave-but-unamused face and stands by his side. AP photo.

THE EMPEROR WEARS NO CLOTHES

With the bombshell news breaking late today that New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has been implicated in a prostitution ring, the Democratic politician will now forever be known as “Client 9,” one of the johns described in a recently unsealed FBI affidavit detailing the operation of the Emperors Club, an international call girl ring.

The FBI wiretap captured a man identified as Client 9 on a telephone call confirming plans to have a woman travel from New York to Washington on Feb. 13, where he had reserved a hotel room, according to an affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan. The person briefed on the case and the law enforcement official identified Mr. Spitzer as Client 9.

Mr. Spitzer, a first term Democrat, today made a brief public appearance during which he apologized for his behavior, and described it as a “private matter.” He did not address his political future.

“I have acted in a way that violates my obligation to my family and violates my or any sense of right or wrong,” said Mr. Spitzer, who appeared with his wife Silda at his Manhattan office. “I apologize first and most importantly to my family. I apologize to the public to whom I promised better.”

“I have disappointed and failed to live up to the standard I expected of myself. I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family.”

Before speaking, Mr. Spitzer stood with his arm around his wife; the two nodded and then strode forward together to face more than 100 reporters. Both had glassy, tear-filled eyes, but they did not cry.

As he went to leave, three reporters called out, “Are you resigning? Are you resigning?”, and Mr. Spitzer charged out of the room, slamming the door.

CLIENT 9 CALLS BUTTERFIELD 8

The man described as Client 9 in the affidavit arranged to meet with a call girl who was part of the ring, Emperors Club VIP. The tryst was scheduled, ironically enough, for the night before Valentine’s Day.

The affidavit says that Client 9 met with the woman in hotel room 871 but does not identify the hotel. Mr. Spitzer stayed at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on Feb. 13, according to a source who was told of his travel arrangements. Room 871 at the Mayflower Hotel that evening was registered under the name George Fox.

The law enforcement official said that several people running the prostitution ring knew Mr. Spitzer by the name of George Fox, though a few of the prostitutes came to realize he was the governor of New York.

Mr. Fox is a friend and donor to Mr. Spitzer. Asked in a telephone interview Monday whether he accompanied Mr. Spitzer to Washington on Feb. 13 and Feb. 14, Mr. Fox responded: “Why would you think that? I did not.”

Told that the Room 871 at the Renaissance Mayflower Hotel was registered in Mr. Fox’s name but with Mr. Spitzer’s Fifth Avenue address, Mr. Fox said, “That is the first I have heard of it. Until I speak to the governor further, I have no comment.”

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When asked by Gov. Spitzer to remind him “what she looks like,” Emperor’s Club VIP described his lady of the evening as being “American, about five-foot-five, 105 lbs., a petite, pretty brunette.” Is it just me, or is this story starting to sound like the classic Elizabeth Taylor film “Butterfield 8”?

THE GOVERNOR’S “ECONOMIC STIMULUS PACKAGE”

Upon reading the initial reports, you might be inclined to call Governor Spitzer an idiot for being so indiscreet in the first place. Or for using his friend’s name to make arrangements with an escort service without that friend’s apparent knowledge. You could call him a philanderer, since it appears he does regular business with the escort agency in question. You could call him a hypocrite for holding himself up as a crusader for law and order in public while engaging in illegal activity privately.

But there’s one thing you can’t call the man: a cheapskate.

Considering the upscale fees charged by the Emperor’s Club for the pleasure of their model/companion’s “company,” it is clear that the Governor has expensive tastes and prefers champagne to beer. And why not? He can certainly afford it as a rich New York lawyer with oodles of old family money to play with — assuming the funds for this illicit transaction came from his own personal bank account.

That being said, it will be interesting to follow the money trail as the investigation progresses. Then we may just find out how stupid this guy really is.

In he meantime, his defenders can always say he’s doing his part to “stimulate” the “sagging” economy with a “package” designed to help single mothers and beautiful young women in his state.

As described in the FBI document, Client 9 (a repeat customer with an account on file at the agency) apparently went to great lengths to arrange his Washington encounter, choosing to mail money in advance, instead of using a credit card. Client 9, whose conversations were recorded by an FBI wiretap, would not do “traditional wire transferring,” the affidavit quotes one Emperors Club employee remarking.

Documents reveal that Client 9 would be sending cash through the mail in an envelope with no return address, “just like before.” (Nevermind that every state attorney general’s office in the land sternly warns consumers to never send cash in the mail. Apparently, Spitzer forgot he was a former attorney general, but that tends to happen when one is thinking with the wrong head…) The “package,” as the money envelope is referred to in phone conversations and text messages, was delayed in arriving, causing some considerable discontent with the escort agency’s owners.

Representatives from Emperor’s Club had to contact Client 9 several times to ask if he’d sent the “package” yet, basically letting him know he didn’t have enough credit on his account to “cover” the scheduled appointment. Client 9 assured them that the money was en route, and that he would also pay all travel expenses for the young lady, identified by the name “Kristen.”

Only problem was, Client 9 didn’t follow through with the money he had repeatedly promised to the escort service until the day of the scheduled “date” – actually, the money for her services arrived just 30 minutes prior to her scheduled departure on an Amtrak train from New York to Washington – and even then, the amount apparently wasn’t quite correct. (Maybe “Fiscal Responsibility” is not the Governor’s strongest suit?)

This prompted more phone calls back and forth between the agency and Client 9, making arrangements for him to pay the remainder of the call girl’s fee in cash that night, plus a “deposit” towards future engagements with the agency “to avoid payment issues in the future” and “so that we don’t have to go through this again.”

From the recorded conversations, it’s clear that the Emperor’s Club already felt they had a problem client on their hands here. The agency was obviously concerned that “Mr. Fox” was not good for the fee, even if he was a frequent flier. And it is also readily apparent that he had previously been identified by the agency as a “difficult” client. In EscortSpeak, that generally means the client was either rough, abusive, asked for unsafe sex, or didn’t pay up.

Additionally, the affidavit notes that after her appointment with Client-9 ended, “Kristen” spoke with a Emperors Club booker, who said that she had been told that Client-9 “would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe…”

“Kristen” responded by saying, essentially, that she was a professional and knew how to handle guys like that. But “Kristen” reported back to the agency that she “liked him,” didn’t think he was “difficult,” and overall she thought the date had gone “very well.”

She also told the agency booker that she had collected $4,300 in cash from Client 9, more than enough to settle his balance due plus a comfy deposit towards the next visit. (Uh, somehow I rather doubt there will be a “next time”…that’s money he’ll never see again.) 

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Mel Brooks as the Governor in “Blazing Saddles”

He rode a blazing saddle
He wore a shining star
His job to offer battle
To bad men near and far
He conquered fear and he conquered hate
He turned our night into day
He made his blazing saddle
A torch to light the way
When outlaws ruled the West
And fear filled the land
A cry went up for a man with guts
To take the West in hand
They needed a man who was brave and true
With justice for all as his aim
Then out of the sun rode a man with a gun
And Bart was his name
Yes Bart was his neme

“Blazing Saddles” theme song. Lyrics by Mel Brooks, vocal by Frankie Laine

HE RODE A BLAZING SADDLE

The real irony of this story, of course, is that Eliot Spitzer was propelled to fame in New York politics through his reputation as a crusading reformer, a “law and order” man who put criminals behind bars. Even before becoming Governor, he had let the bad guys know there was a new Sheriff in town — and they had better watch out.

As Attorney General of New York State, he had successfully prosecuted cases against (wait for it!)…prositution rings, strongly denouncing the world’s oldest profession in his public statements.

Spitzer, 48, served as New York’s attorney general for eight years before being elected governor in a landslide victory (he won 70% of the vote). Time magazine named him “Crusader of the Year” during his two terms as New York attorney general.

Tabloids labeled him “Eliot Ness,” after the hero in the crime drama “The Untouchables,” because of his reputation for rooting out corruption, busting white-collar criminals and tackling organized crime.

He also worked as an assistant district attorney in Manhattan and worked for three New York law firms after receiving his law degree from Harvard. The first-term Democratic governor had been considered a rising star among his party, perhaps even presidential material.

But all that began to change last year as one scandal and misstep after another seemed to befall him. Spitzer was accused of using the power of his office to investigate his political opponents (which is illegal as hell). Then came his disastrous plan to give driver’s licenses to illegal aliens, one bright idea which didn’t go over too well with the people of New York State – more than 85% opposed the proposal.

Since then, his approval ratings have plummeted – at one point down to only about 36% – and Spitzer has been hard-pressed to find a way to salvage his Governorship, his name, and now…his entire political career. Not to mention his marriage. His wife of 21 years and three teenage daughters will be faced with the embarassing ordeal of constant public scrutiny and media intrusion into their shattered private lives.

ELIOT MESS — THE FALLOUT

“To say this is a shock is an understatement,” said CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, who went to law school with Spitzer.

The Republican Governors Association has called on Spitzer to resign to “allow the people of New York to pursue honest leadership.”

“The American people are tired of corrupt and hypocritical politicians. The governor of New York is just another in the long list of politicians that have failed their constituents,” Nick Ayers, RGA executive Director, said in a statement.

Spitzer’s office, the U.S. Attorney’s office in New York and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg all declined to comment on Spitzer. So did presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, who is a longtime friend and political ally of the New York Governor. Right now, Mum’s the word…but mark my word, it won’t be for long.

This story’s got more legs than an octopus, and it’s going to walk from New York to Washington. We may even get congressional hearings out of this mess. The aftershocks from this rattler will extend far beyond the boundaries of New York State.

Spitzer’s close proximity to New York Senator Hillary Clinton (whom he has endorsed in the presidential contest) has already caused her trouble during this campaign. His licenses-for-illegals proposal forced Clinton to answer some very delicate questions on immigration which cost her campaign dearly last fall. By extension, this flap damaged the Democratic party overall, but once Spitzer dropped the idea, everyone seemed willing to give him one more chance. And now he’s blown it big time.

Governor Spitzer is also a highly-prized Superdelegate, one who was likely expected to “deliver” some other Superdelegates to Clinton and help her secure the nomination. How that will play out between now and August is anybody’s guess, but if the Governor resigns from office, it will cost Spitzer his Superdelegate status.

Bobby Kennedy, Jr.

DO I HEAR A DOOR OPENING?

Another very interesting aspect of this story is how the fallout will effect Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s political plans. As readers of this blog already know, Bobby has endorsed Senator Clinton for President and makes no secret of the fact that he would love to reclaim his late father’s former Senate seat. Should Senator Clinton vacate that seat upon election to the presidency, the task of appointing her successor would fall to Governor Spitzer.

Up until now, that seemed a very distinct possibility, as Spitzer and Kennedy have always enjoyed a very friendly relationship. Although the two have probably shared a gentleman’s agreement not to run against each other for any public office, RFK Jr. did briefly consider running for Attorney General of New York once Spitzer announced he would run for Governor in 2005.

Kennedy decided against the idea of running for A.G., and later donated a small amount ($200) to Spitzer’s 2006 gubernatorial election campaign. They appeared together at a Clinton Library symposium last fall and Gov. Spitzer also proposed renaming the Triborough Bridge in New York “the RFK Bridge” just two months ago. (RFK Jr., his mother Ethel, and other members of the Robert Kennedy family were in attendance when the announcement was made during Gov. Spitzer’s State of the State address.)

At this point, with Senator Clinton running behind in the presidential race and Governor Spitzer now facing possible impeachment or recall, resignation, maybe even jail time over this sex scandal, Bobby may want to rethink what was seemingly a foolproof plan to be the next Junior Senator from New York State.

Maybe that Senate seat won’t be up for grabs anytime soon. If Hillary doesn’t win the nomination, I rather doubt she will accept a VP slot on Obama’s ticket. Nor do I envision her simply walking away from her hard-won Senate seat. Hillary can likely keep that seat for life, and if the voters of New York want her to stay put, why shouldn’t she?

Bobby is a practical political player. He’s also a realist. He can read the writing on the proverbial wall: “Win or lose, I hope and expect Hillary to remain in public life because she is extremely effective and because that is her passion,” Kennedy informed Page Six in January.

On the other hand, if Eliot Spitzer is impeached or resigns, there will be an election coming up for a Very Important Office — an office which one Robert F. Kennedy Jr. could certainly fill – and where he’d do great things for the people of New York State.

So, Bobby…ever considered running for Governor? (Yes, we know you have.)

Perhaps you should consider it again now.

MAR. 12 UPDATE: New York Governor Eliot Spitzer resigned today. Lt. Gov. David Patterson will be sworn in on Monday, Mar. 17th.

Copyright RFKin2008.com.

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17 responses to “NY Gov. Spitzer Caught in a Honey Trap

  1. I somehow knew that this site would have a new hot story today….. Oh Man…. You can’t make this stuff up!

    If there is a perfect opportunity for RFK JR. to throw down… It is right now. Not be politically correct and wait things out… throw down right now. Call a special news conference and announce his intentions to become our Governor or run for AG under a “clean up politics compaign” for real!!! Being able to capitolize on a hardship opening in these circumstances here in NY, to become viable to seek an office that he can win, would be smart politically, under any scenario… I believe the AG steps up into the void if the Governor vacates or in this case runs for the hills. and/or we’ll hold special elections to elect a new Governor.

    Think about how energizing that would be to pump up the volume throughout the rest of the country! He already backs Sen. Clinton, she would re-gain face in NY for her backing a now known fraud and criminal in Spitzer… In the Driver License For Illegals flap…

    Seeing how the Clinton / Obama race is so close and RFK, Jr. has already backed Hillary… Assuming he would be ‘given’ any position in the White House is not worth gambling on and passing up on a sure shoe in, in the ad-hoc government we’ll need to restore here in NY and ASAP.

    Mr. Kennedy has in my opinion more esteem and more clout and more entitlement to take an office through “coming up” designs from a proud and powerful and world recognized state like NY. He shouldn’t (Pardon the association) have to wait at the feet of senator Clinton to annoint him into the White House.. That actually feels subversive and somehow I feel Mr. Kennedy would be underserved and devaluated and beneath him, in my mind if he were to wind up on Capitol Hill this way.

    He should get his state behind him first to ‘cut his teeth’ and to show Washington that after serving NY in a senior position of government, that he’s coming for washington next. Of course after Sen. Clinton or Senator Obama serve out there term(s) and we G-D willing will have restored our countries’ face to show the world again, as well as set a real tone for integrity and accountablility in our Government by then (I PRAY–NO MORE SELF SERVING CRIMINALS… PLEASE JUST PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!).

    It is more respectful in my opinion and more honorable and more leaderlike for Mr. Kennedy to “Come up” this way… It’s also good because he’ll be “In the cue” in the eyes of the rest of the country, that there’s more good people that are moving themselves into positions for senior leadership should another corrupt or criminal senior official create scandal or outrage, they could see clearly, that they will be held to be accountable to the likes of Mr. Kennedy.

    RUN BOBBY RUN– FOR GOVERNOR OF NY!!!

    Then maybe I can get some lakes or rivers to actually restore… Instead of watching corporate faux “Environmental” companies take huge state contracts to “restore” water bodies and just dump and pump more toxic and poisonous herbicides and pesticides into our highly stressed water bodies under the guise of there inability to actually DO ANYTHING as opposed to killing everyhthing…

    Hey Mr. Kennedy! You need to Run for Governor of New York “AS A CIVICS LESSON!”

  2. chrisy58

    Great Post Jack!!!

    I don’t live in New York, but if I did I would be encouraging him to think really hard about running for Governor of New York.

    I think he would be a good governor.

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  4. Sandra Reese

    So what will we will we do now that Elliott has gotten caught in an act that , everyone has done in some life time or another in our life time or another e do stupid things. What you should have done El was not shut shit down with the other cat that had they thing going on but as the saying goes what go around come around . And everbody in the game knows don’t shit where you eat. Keep Your head up Silda and keep your home girls thoughts to themselves.If you guys work it out, then it’s meant to be. Peace out

  5. I feel badly for Elliot Spitzer… More so, for his wife and daughters though… I think that this would make for a great opportunity for Mr. Kennedy to become vocal at present… His attachment to Sen. Clinton is public and vocally supportive. He faces his Uncle and his Cousin in a clear and opposing manor in his decision to back the Clinton camp. Anyone who doesn’t see this (Immediately) as an opportunity to put Mr. Kennedy “In play” (Immediately) on the Clinton or the Kennedy Camps’ repectfully, should concider doing something else for a living…

    With the margins so close in the Democratic race for the parties’ nomination, I think that “Rolling out Bobby” right now is the best chance the Clinton camp has in getting momentum, they never knew they could get actually… Think about it, Mr. Kennedy taking limelight to voice his opponions and his desire to become Gov. or AG in New York… This would be so invigorating, that there wouldn’t be a person alive who would seem more entitled to this than RFK, Jr.

    Talk about a “reform or a Change” guy… We’d get a taste for new government even before our next Pres. Takes office with RFK, Jr. Sen. Clinton would receive big wind at her sails with this action… New York would be at the forefront and cutting edge of ‘taking back Washington’ with RFK, Jr. on board.

    If Rfk, Jr. doesn’t hop on this gravy train, I’m seriously wondering if he will ever jump in to politics… This is a no brainer, there won’t be another opportunity that is historic and “Lobbed over the plate” pitch like this again. He needs to call a news conference, yesterday… or as soon as Elliot Spitzer makes known what his intentions are.

  6. The Skeptical Observer

    So today the woman known as “Kristen” was identified by the media. Turns out she is a cute 22 yr. old aspiring musician who took to escorting to help her “make connections” in New York City and to advance her career…because the music thing was’nt working out.

    well it sounds like this is the big career break “Kristen” has been looking for. And she’s the NEXT BIG THING the music industry has been looking for.

    Dont’cha think it’s kind of odd that she left her MySpace page UP after this scandal broke instead of taking it down? (You can see her photos, read her blog, even listen to her music there..gee whiz!) Talk about free advertising!

    It’s as if she couldn’t wait to get her name, face and music out there, taking full advantage of the moment…and her 15 minutes of fame.

    She and even her MOM (what’s up with that?) both spoke to reporters today, and Mom didn’t seem to be too alarmed by her daughter’s choice of profession. Interesting…actually, Mom seemed way too encouraging.

    So I’ll just go out on a limb here and predict that “Kristen” will have a record deal, a reality show, a book deal and a film deal within 3 months or less.

    Actually, the ink may not even be dry yet. How do we know she hasn’t already snagged a few nice deals for herself, along with the Governor’s head?

    All in a night’s work, I suppose. The $4,300 she rec’d from Eliot Spitzer is just a drop in the bucket compared to what she will eventually net. I don’t think she will have any trouble paying the rent on her ninth floor manhattan apartment anymore…

  7. I got something else to vent… As if it really matters, no matter how much the matter is blogged about, wailed at watercooler talks or protested about all over the country or talked about on television or even brought forward officially in the hallowed halls of our Senate’s floor…

    Why is it that Clinton ruins a dress, Elliot makes a mess and another senator pees on a shoe and they get impeached, impailed and imploded on national T.V.

    Great lengths are persued in legal expenditures to prosecute these people to the fullest extent of the law and chastized to the greatest extent that the media can deliver… Yet, we have innumerable acts of criminality which are real high crimes and misdemeanors commited by our own President and his Vice President which might easily implicate them in the most heinous acts of debauchery and subjucative treason we have EVER seen in our countries’ history… Yet we not only do nothing… but we allow it to be coined as cute and permissable.

    WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE and the AUDACITY in our citizenry? Are there no real patriots anymore? Have we reduced ourselves to being morally bankrupt to the point where you can only be effective if you are a criminal and have the backing of other criminals to lie and swagger your way in to political office?

    LIBERAL???! I’m a liberal…? Yeah, okay… That’s the defensive posture which is acceptable these days and actually that defense or Non-defense is the prima facie for our demise and downfall… We have been boiled down to being so DUMB… that we take a name like liberal and connotate a trecherous anti-establishment position and a position of welfare moms to hate for the sinns caused by the polar opposites of the liberal actually…

    BTW Reagans’ “trickle down economics” wonderful tax breaks for the stinking rich, didn’t work… Trickle down economics, ran down our leg. It was the roll call for the rich and shameless to stand up and be counted… That the wholesale pillaging was about to begin and that the U.S. is on the block for the highest bidder… Why did we let Unions get broken? Why Do we hail Reagan as such a pillar of the opitomy of highest esteem, to have other poiliticians revel at and promise to be inspired from and to act like Ronald Raygun? If I think back… Reagan and (Bush) is when all this Shit started… call me crazy, but check the facts first please and don’t insult your own intelligence (haters) by just calling my liberal…

    WHY…. IS IMPEACHMENT OFF THE TABLE FOR BUSH/CHENEY!!!

  8. John

    Yes my name is really John! i’m not trying to be cute here…lol.

    I just wanted to say that your headline hit the nail right on the head, imho. Gov. Spitzer DID get caught in a HONEY TRAP…meaning that his name coming up in this investigation is no coincidence, as the MSM would like us to believe.

    Here’s why I think so:

    I read the entire 55 page complaint and found it very interesting indeed that Clients 1-8 only merit about half a page to a page of detail regarding their transactions with the Emperor’s club agency, even tho’ they were doing something every bit as illegal as Client 9. They were also transporting ladies across state lines, and paying sums larger than what Spitzer allegedly paid.

    By contrast, Spitzer (or Client 9)’s part of the criminal complaint takes up a whopping 12 pages!!! The report goes into excruciating detail to tell us all the down n’ dirty details on Client 9…so why not the same level of detail on Clients 1-8? Why so much focus on Client 9’s dealings with this agency, if they supposedly had no idea who he was?

    C’mon folks, see past the sordid headlines and think about it. Sure, what Spitzer did was stupid and wrong, and i’m glad he resigned, but…if you ca’nt see this for what it was – a targeted “hit” on an unpopular Governor, you’re not paying attention.

    Spitzer made most of his enemies on Wall Street when he sent many of their friends to jail…am I the only one who noticed the Dow shot up nearly 500 points the day after this scandal broke? They were dancing on the floor of the NY stock exchange.

    But of course, I’m sure the Wall St. honchos and powerful Republicans in Albany had absolutely nothing to do with this…right?

  9. Good points, John (if you say that’s your real name, I’ll believe you), Sandra, Skeptical Observer and of course, Jack Mosel.

    All of you raised questions that the mainstream media won’t touch, and I do think there’s much more to this story than meets the eye. Or what we’re hearing on tee-vee. Much, much more.

    Chances are we’ll never get to the bottom of it, due to the lack of investigative journalists willing to dig deeper into the facts. All they care about is the smutty stuff – now that he has resigned, that may be the last we hear of it. And for his wife and kids, that’s probably a good thing.

    Jack, you’re right that with all the media focus on sex scandals among our elected officials, it’s a convenient excuse for not covering the *real news*…like the high crimes brought upon us by BushCo.

    As RFK Jr. so often says (and he’s right): “If the media reported what’s really going on, there would be a revolution in this country!”

    Ain’t it the truth?

  10. “Spitzer Resigns – It’s Time to Impeach Bush”

    (From Democrats.com 3/13/2008)

    “…But Spitzer’s resignation was not entirely voluntary, because Republican leaders were busy drafting Articles of Impeachment.

    What was Spitzer’s impeachable offense? The “lowest” crime in the book.

    As we know, the Founding Fathers wanted Impeachment to be used for “High Crimes” like treason, bribery, war crimes, and subverting the Constitution itself.

    Eliot Spitzer committed no “High Crimes” – but George Bush and Dick Cheney most certainly have, and they continue to do so with absolute impunity.

    16 months ago, we posted a petition listing 10 High Crimes which justified their impeachment:
    (1) Starting a “war of aggression” (2) torture (3) arbitrary detention (4) war crimes (5) warrantless wiretapping (6) signing statements (7) election fraud (8) outing a covert CIA operative (9) the “unitary executive” (10) gross negligence for Katrina and global warming.

    Each one of these crimes is as unacceptable today as it was then. After 5 years in Iraq (see below), Bush has killed nearly 4,000 Americans and over 1 million Iraqis and incurred $3 trillion in costs. And there are many more crimes we could add, including Bush’s commutation of Scooter Libby’s sentence to stop him from testifying about the crimes of Bush and Cheney themselves, and Bush’s ongoing threats to bomb Iran. And each one makes Spitzer’s “crime” utterly insignificant by comparison.”
    (Received from Democrats.com 3/13/2008)

    So Again…. WHY IS IMPEACHMENT OFF THE TABLE???!!! NWO / REPUBLICANS… you can’t have it both ways.

    Why won’t Dem’s start articles of impeachment of there own? A minority GOP in the house seems intimidating??? So what… (Grow a sack) Are the minority Republicans, so afraid of going against the grain of the lame duck in office that they are willing to bet their careers on him? That’s what’s going to happen when Nov. comes around… “No” Vote’s are going to flush them down the drain…

    The Japanese Government are holding hearings on the events of 9/11 for G-D’s sake, in there own parliament, look for it on you tube… It’s amazing that we are so brainwashed and sheepish.

    The same Republicans who rallied SO QUICKLY to impeach Spitzer, should be so dutiful now as to realize that impeachment is a powerful tool… One that should be held to high scrutiny and to be used when absolute power corrupts absolutely… SO, if a Governor from NY gets caught using hookers and that is worthy of impeachment threats (Or promises)… What about these high crimes? Just pick ONE there are ten here to choose from just pick one… Hey you did it to Clinton… There are no stained dresses in this list… It’s much worse, so take your time… Oh wait a minute, they’ve done that already… Now that you took your time, which one do you want to choose? Hey wait, firing supreme court justices (Obstruction of justice) isn’t on there, foreknowledge of the events of 9/11 isn’t on there… Ad infinitum.

    PICK ONE!!!

    Clinton was “Lame duck” when the Rush Limbaugh Republican NWO clan swooshed in and spent $50,000,000.00 and hung us out to dry to months to impeach him, vitually shutting down our government for sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky… NOTHING ELSE… (That’s responsible actions from lawmakers, right?) The standard was set by their own hand… Now hang yourselves by your own pitard…

    This is SOOOO relevant and so much applies to our situation here and now… How are we going to act?

    Again… They’re are going to hoot and laugh at us in the future, for the shit we put up with today… If we are so lucky as to have a future that is…

    CIVICS LESSON: Instructor needed:

    Wanted: Communicator, leader, expert in public speech. A large, well established young soveriegn country, prominent in the Western World, seeks a civicly minded individual to lead by example…

    Rogue thinking (propoganda) and run-away politics, along with widespread corruption have tainted this once proud and world respected, sovereign nation.

    We seek an individual who can galvanize and unify the dwindling population of common sense centered people that remain in this once sovereign nation, who have been made to feel powerless and diminished from the dictoral / runaway powers that affect them.

    Attempts, previously from other civicly minded patriotic souls have failed to carry out this civics lesson’s effectiveness, due to lack of their star status and/or their super power capability or credability.

    The individual we seek should be willing to risk everything and eager to combat anything. They should have a life experience, which the entire world knows of their commitment to freedom and has Democracy at their core. The entire world should also be aware that this person has had there family members killed in office, to attempt this same job in providing this very civics lesson or to establish the Civics pedagogy in this young sovereign nation.

    This lesson should be taught immediatley and content for the lesson has already been provided. The previous position holders for this position have retired, but they left documents behind called Articles of Confederation and a U.S. Constitution to help as references in the lesson plan to be created for this Civics Lesson.

    Inquiries won’t be held by confidential means and
    pay is commensurate to abilities only. This is a self-starter and commision only position.

    RUN FOR SOMETHING BOBBY….

  11. chrisy58

    Jack I really like your posts. They are full of passion and truth!!!

    Yes, we do need strong, moral and honorable people who will run for office. Who are willing to stand and tell the truth to the American people and who have the courage to face the powerful forces in this country who because of greed, desire for power, and deceit have gained power within our government and have forgotten that this is a government of the people by the people.

    We have two parties that have each in their own way sold this country down the river. We have two parties that are afraid to tell the American people the truth. We have two parties that for moral reasons I can’t support or vote for either of the candidates they put forward in 2008.

    When I was a kid I believed that politics was a noble profession of men who wanted to make a difference for good and had the courage to speak the truth. Yes, I admired Bobby Kennedy who had vision, courage, and was a moral man who would have stood up and fight the evil that was taking over America that he loved so much. In the 40 years that have followed since I was a 10 year old kid trying to get adults to vote for him in the Calif. primary I have seen this country fall further and further away from the truth, the courage to stand for what is morally right, and a voice for those who are being denied their Civil Rights. We have become a very selfish people who only think what is best for us and not our neighbor.

    Do we care that our neighbor may loose his job and can’t pay the mortage on his house or feed his family? Do we care that we have people in this country who work hard and have no medical insurance? Do we care that we have children who are not receiving a good education? Do we care that the most innocent of our society is being murdered in the womb? I weep because instead of love, compassion, and justice; I see hate, selfishness, greed, and violence.

    Both parties have failed and both parties need to be held accountable. No longer can we condone the same ole same ole and think that we will get a different result if we just elect more Democrats to office. Both parties are part of the problem and the blame for what is wrong with this country.

    We are destroying our enviroment. Our planet is suffering because of greed. We stoped being good caregivers and have become those who are shortsighted and only see the profit and not look at the effects.

    Yes, Bush and company should be impeached for his treason, but we also have to speak up and expose those within our own party who because of their greed and wanting of more power have lied and committed their own treason. Those who have seen the pain and suffering of people in this country and who ignored the cries of the poor, who ignored the cries of of those who were victims of crime and did nothing to help bring justice. We have hyprocrits in both parties.

    I have a question can an honest man who has morals and wants to change things and get this country back on track run today? Would the evil that has taken over both parties allow an honest man to run and be elected to powerful office?

    Do we the people have any real say in who is elected? Do are votes really count? Are our elections really fair or do the powers that be pick the person that they want and only make it look like there is a fair election?

    Yes, we American people do need a Civics lesson on seeing that it is not to late to take this country back. That we do have a choice between people who deserve to be in office and not have to choose between who is the least evil. The American people have lost hope. Obama talks about hope and change, but I am afraid it is only words. We have been lied to by candidates in both parties for so long that we know that they will say anything to get elected and once they are elected just ingore all the promises they made to get the vote. Again nothing gets changed and it is the same ole same ole corruption in both parties.

    I personally would love to see Bobby Kennedy Jr run, but I can understand why he may not want to. Will he be allowed by those who hold power and have evil intent to toss them out? Power is very powerful to people. Once they have power they don’t want to loose it. The corrpt in both parties in our government are not going to just hand American back to the people without a fight. I believe that is why both Bobby’s uncle and father were killed. The evil people within this government didn’t want someone in office who was honest and had the moral courage to fight and do what was morally right.

    When one does try and speak out on issues because of morality they are offten labeled as looney tunes and told to be quiet and not rock the boat because the truth might upset people. How many of us who care about the enviroment are called looney left?

    I am rambling here, but I will end with if anyone can help save this country it would be Bobby Jr.

  12. Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

    * 29 have been accused of spousal abuse

    * 7 have been arrested for fraud

    * 19 have been accused of writing bad checks

    * 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

    * 3 have done time for assault

    * 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

    * 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

    * 8 have been arrested for shoplifting

    * 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits

    * 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year…

    Can you guess which organization this is?

    Give up yet?

    It’s the 535 members of the United States Congress.
    The same group that crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to
    Keep the rest of us in line!!!

    There’s your answer Chrissy… Solid Citizens.

    There should be a backround check for criminal activity if one is going to be in charge of running our country… Where does one begin in cleaning house with this stuff…?

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  14. Hi there
    Absolutely agree.
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