Op-Ed: Throw the Bums Out of D.C.

THEY DON’T CALL IT THE “DISTRICT OF CRIMINALS” FOR NUTHIN’ 

By Jack Mosel

Guest Blogger

Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

* 29 have been accused of spousal abuse

* 7 have been arrested for fraud

* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks

* 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

* 3 have done time for assault

* 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

* 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

* 8 have been arrested for shoplifting

* 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits

* 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year…

Can you guess which organization this is?

Give up yet?

It’s the 535 members of the United States Congress.

The same group that crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line!

There should be a background check for criminal activity if one is going to be in charge of running our country… oh no – wait – actually, every member of Congress does have to go through an exhaustive background check before taking office. They seem to get themselves in trouble after taking office. Then they stay in office. And get in more trouble.

Think it might be time to throw the bums out yet?

We need a top-to-bottom housecleaning in Washington D.C.

Voting for a new president this year is a start in the right direction, but that alone is not enough. So when the midterms come around in 2010, you know what to do, America!

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in the above editorial are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., or the owners of this website. You may contact the author directly at: moseljack@yahoo.com.

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26 responses to “Op-Ed: Throw the Bums Out of D.C.

  1. Much of Jack Mosel’s research comes from an article published in 1999. The list has grown longer since then.

    Larry Craig, David Vitter, and William “the Refrigerator” Jefferson are a three more recent examples, just to name a few.

    Any readers want to contribute more Congressional names to the list? Fire away!

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  3. William Lehmann

    Snopes tried to discredit the original 1999 report as a fake some years ago, but to my mind at least, they were not successful in convincing me that this is untrue.

    What they said basically was, “well, it MUST be a phony because the author did not name names.”

    While I am disappointed that the original article did not give the names of each Congresscritter on the list, that by itself does NOT mean the facts are incorrect or fake.

  4. Jeremy

    If the above figures date back to 1999, it sure would be interesting to see an updated list. Lord knows that since the Bush Crime Syndicate swept Washington 8 years ago, just imagine how many new names we could add to the list!

    Has anyone done the research on this? Would really like to see how much longer the list has become since 2000.

  5. President Kennedy held a strong belief that “politics is a noble profession.”

    When he took office in 1960, there was already a growing distrust of politicians; part of his mission when he asked *every American* to become involved in public service – be it joining the Peace Corps, volunteering locally, or running for office – was to remind us that it is up to *us* to restore faith and trust in our public servants…by becoming public servants ourselves.

    Ralph Nader (whose career began when he responded to JFK’s call for more public servants) often says the same thing. In a 2004 interview with CNN’s Lou Dobbs, he said something that has stuck in he back of my mind ever since. I think of these words a lot lately:

    “Politics in the Greek definition is “of the citizen,” said Nader. “Not “of the Exxons by the General Motors for the Wal-Marts.”

    If we truly wish to remake America as we want it to be, if we want to “take our country back” as we so often say, we cannot rely on others to do it for us. WE must play an active role. WE need to run for places in our local city councils, run for mayorships, run for office in our county and state governments, all the way up to the federal level.

    We have to set the example of what public servants should be, how they should behave, and what kind of moral and ethical code shall be expected of them. We need to stop lowering our expectations and instead LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

    I would like to share a quote from JFK which illustrates his philosophy – sadly, we don’t hear this one too often anymore. Attending a national conference of mayors in Honolulu (June 9, 1963), he asked the mayors to help guide “along constructive channels the attainment of a peaceful revolution which will not only avoid disaster, but fulfill our highest obligations.”

    Without a president who sets the highest standard and the tone which other elected leaders across the country should follow, we won’t get very far. But even if we elect another president like JFK, unless that president is supported by elected representatives of like mind, we won’t get anywhere. So that means we’ve got to change from the bottom up, not from the top down.

    Want to throw the bums out of DC? Great! Vote them out in 2010. But, your duty as a citizen doesn’t stop there. If we don’t have honest, good americans to replace them with, we will only get more of the same.

    “Meet the new boss….same as the old boss.”

  6. chrisy58

    NF, You made some really good points for consideration. I used to believe that and that is why I was active in trying to be part of the solution. I used to believed that each person could make a difference for good. I used to believe that Politics was a noble profession of good moral men. I now think there is more to the equation than just electing good, honest, and moral men.

    I remember when I still lived in Marshfield I asked my then Congressman Gary Studds what advice would you give someone who wanted to run for political office? He said take a couple of asprin and start raising money. It is so expensive that unless is very very rich and can put their own money into the campaign they have to accept money from the exons and all the other large lobby groups in order to run for office. A good honest moral man is forced many times to take money with strings in order just to run. I believe that good people are elected but are corrupted once they get there. Unless we have real campaign reform it will be the same ole same ole of people having to sell their soul to the devil in order to even get there or to keep their seat.

    This is 2008 and not 1960 anymore. The world is a very different place. What worked in 1960 is not going to work now. I think that it is good to look, read, study on the words of President Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy and apply those words to today. I know that Bobby was a very moral man and had the courage to speak and fight for those who could not speak for themselves. For me, I believe that if he was alive today he would join me in fighting for the most innocent of life the unborn child who is being murdered in the womb. He would be for the Civil Rights of all people from the womb to the tomb. I know that within my own party that there are people who just want to keep silent about the murder of the unborn child in this country. I won’t be silent because to me it is a moral issue. I speak out because I believe that my hero wouldn’t be afraid to speak out on something that he considered a moral issue and WRONG.

    I believe that he would have spoken out against the War in Iraq and the suffering this country has caused in the world by our bombs. He would speak out for the poor and suffering and the hungry in this world. He would be speaking out for medical insurance for all Americans, finding a way to give each child a decent education, and finding a way to bring jobs so that all Americans could work their way out of poverty that effects so many Americans who work many hours and still don’t make enough money to support themselves or their families. I also know that our enviroment would be a very important issue. In fact I think it is so important that it should be more of a focus than it is during this election cycle.

    Yes, some of the issues are the same, but many of the issues are different because it is a different time in our nation’s history.

    Power is a very powerful drug and people are not just going to give up their power that they hold in our government without a fight. You make it seem so easy NF, but it won’t be easy and it has already and could get even more bloody. I believe that is why both President Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy were killed because they had the courage and love for this country to take this country back for the people. I don’t think people have the backbone today to continue the work that they started. I hate to say that, but most people just go along with the lies that they are fed from our media and don’t take the time to see if what is in the media is the reality. They know more about Britiany Spears and her problems than the destruction of this planet. If people do speak out they are called looney left enviromentalists so we have people who are in denial because the media(talk radio) says there is no such thing as global warming or climate change.

    I may not be explaining this very well. I sometimes have a hard time getting the words out that are in my heart.

    To Brad, You don’t know what happen that night because you weren’t there. You know the rumors and gossip, but you don’t know for sure what really happen. Sometimes one has to dig deep for the truth because the truth is not always on the surface. Some people never understand that concept and they base their opinions on rumors, hearsay, and gossip without taking time to find out the truth and not making up their mind until they have the proof.

    Rumors can be very hurtful and hurt innocent people. It can destroy friendship, destroy lives, and the people who get hurt the most are truly innocent people. I know what it is like to be harshly judged and punished severely because of rumors and defending the people who those rumors were about, because I wouldn’t believe it until they provided real proof which was never provided. People have to gossip about the Kennedy’s. They like to base judgements not based on fact, but based on rumors of mean spirited people who think it is funny to destroy.

    Ted Kennedy was my Senator when I lived in MA. Do you think the people in MA are all fools Brad? It is the people in MA who vote for him and for good reason. Love him or hate him, he is one of us. Is he perfect, NO, but either is anyone else I have ever met in this world except for Jesus. Does every vote he ever casts a vote I agree with. NO. I like to think of all the good he has done for the state. I like to think that he is one of the few people who has stood up to Bush.

    I will continue not to judge people based on rumors but will wait until I can look them in the face and look into their eyes and hear the truth from their lips. Yes, that makes me a fool in some people’s eyes who hate someone based on rumors and gossip.

  7. Great comments, Chrisy. As you so correctly point out, apathy and ignorance are two tremendous obstacles we face – every bit as much as the corruption which prevents so many good, honest, moral people from seeking and winning political office.

    Like you, I am also deeply disturbed by the challenges honest political candidates face in getting elected nowadays. First of all, the cost of running a successful campaign automatically eliminates many potential candidates before they even try to run. And there just aren’t enough independently wealthy patriots out there who can afford to finance their own campaigns.

    Then there is the manipulation of our elections – another subject RFK Jr. is very passionate about. Even if you have a good candidate who can compete financially; even if that candidate gets the votes, the election can still be stolen right our from under them. As you and I both know, election fraud is now easier than ever, with a little help from electronic voting machines and crooked election officials who are all too willing to particpate in this fraud.

    I’ve worked as a campaign manager on two such “David-and-Goliath” campaigns here in Texas since 2000. In both campaigns, the candidate was a good and moral man, an average Joe who had no financial or social advantage going into the race. But his message motivated people. He turned out record numbers of volunteers, voters and raised a competitive amount of money. Thanks to small contributions from individuals and small businesses, he was able to outspend his incumbent opponent (who was a puppet of the local political machine) on print, radio, TV and Billboard advertising. He ran a very competitive, ethical, and successful campaign.

    So we had no real difficulty getting the candidate’s message out. All of the polls prior to election day showed him leading over his opponent by a 70%-30% margin. By all logical indications, the election should have been a landslide.

    Then, a funny thing happened on election day: the electronic voting machines showed a final result which was the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the actual vote count should have been. (Mind you, this happened TWICE to the same candidate in TWO separate elections in 2002 and again in 2004) The final result was 70%-30% in his opponent’s favor.

    Although there was a great deal of outrage and suspicion among voters who did not accept the final vote tally, the candidate could not afford to pay for a recount and thus was unable to prove that he was the legitimate winner. That’s how a lot of good guys (and gals) are shut out in the end. Just ask Dennis Kucinich, who could not afford to pay for recounts in every state primary across the country. It’s just impossible!

    Which brings us right back to the central question: can an honest person still get elected in this country?

    And so on that troublesome topic, I would like to recommend a documentary film called “Can Mr. Smith Get to Washington Anymore?” Anyone who cares about taking our country back through the electoral process MUST see this film.

    This movie shows how an unknown candidate named Jeff Smith nearly defeated a “shoo-in” for a congressional race in 2004. Mr. Smith starts his campaign with barely even the support of his own parents! While it’s inspiring to see how he confronts many obstacles, it’s also disheartening to see how difficult it is for someone outside the political elite to get elected in modern day America.

    Along with “Hacking Democracy,” I’d highly recommend this movie to everyone who is passionate about election integrity. You can get the DVD at Amazon or rent it thru Netflix. While it may not make you feel very hopeful about the process (actually, it might make you want to sit down and have a good cry), it is still a powerful and very important film.

  8. chrisy58

    NF once again you tell it like it is and make some really good points. I agree 100% with you about election fraud having to be part of the equation that we consider in taking this government back for the people and away from the powerful corporate elite that are running it. Let us not forget the powerful milatary industrial complex.

    There are other stories like the story in Texas that are happening across this country. Frankly, I don’t believe Mr. Smith can be elected to Congress anymore and if he is and he doesn’t play ball nicely than he won’t be re-elected. Maybe I have become disillusioned with the way things work in Washington?

    I was talking to my nephew yesterday who is graduating from Law School in Hawaii who is going to be an enviromental lawyer. We both care very much about the enviroment. I told him when he asked me who I was voting for I told him I wasn’t voting for any of the 3 candidates because each one because of a moral issue was someone I could not support or vote for. I told him I don’t vote for the lesser of two evils just so I am voting. I bought that line before and voted for the worst mistake of a man to ever hold the office of President and I won’t ever make that mistake again. Cam said the same thing that he can respect me not voting or writing someone in better than to vote for the lesser of two evils. I told him who I would be writing in and why. I told him about Waterkeepers and the water in Hawaii is a very big issue there. I don’t know if they have a chapter in Hawaii, but I encouraged him after his graduation in May as he is very busy now trying to graduate and than take the bar to contact them and see if he can work with them to start a Waterkeepers in Hawaii. Anyway, he is a bright kid who I think will make a difference for good in our fight for the enviroment. I also told him that I feel that all the candidates have been lack on getting this issue out during this election. He and I seem to be the only Democrats in a big sea of Republicans. I guess he has the rebel streak that his auntie has, lol.

    Back to topic. As a proud auntie I just had to praise my nephew, lol.

    I know I have been getting pressure from my mother to vote for McCain and I stand my ground as I always do with her. I will not vote for him for moral issues. He is a war monger and he supports a war that I feel is unmoral and should be stopped. He may be pro-life but he has other problems. I told Cameron after he told me yesterday who he was voting for, that I wouldn’t tell grandma on him. She would not take kindly to his choice. If you don’t know my mother than you wouldn’t understand.

    Anyway, I think it is important for us to stick with voting how we want or not voting if the shoe fits and not let people put pressure on us to vote how they want. Sometimes I think people are pressured to vote a certain way or they jump on the bandwagon because everyone else is and they don’t want to be different.

    We need real campaign reform, we need to make sure there are paper ballots, more real debate and less election spin.

    Is there a will to change things? I don’t really know NF. I would like to think there is, but it won’t be easy and we seem to have a population here in America that likes to take the easy way.

    Happy Belated Easter!

  9. There’s an 800 pound Gorilla…

    Sitting on the damn front steps of the White House, everyone can see him, he is doing flips and tricks even… He is mildly amused that nobody wants to acknowledge that he’s there… The Media go to extreme lengths not to put him in the shot and If a Senator running for President or a decorated General should shrill at the top of their lungs that he is sitting right on the front steps of the capitol, screaming this in the chambers of the Senate actually and formally calling for lawmakers to move on him… But no.. no.. you silly General, you silly senator, you deranged Congressman… How unpatriotic of you to even make mention of this beast… Don’t you know it’s war time?! How can you say these things… Liberal Bastards.

    THE MEDIA GET IT RIGHT ON ONE THING… This is the most important election cycle ever!

    WHY?

    Because the 800 pound gorilla sitting on the steps of the White House Laughing at us, is the inane and outright criminality of Pres George Bush, Dick cheney, Condi Rice, Karl Rove, & Co. have double crossed us so bad that the media can’t even stomach the thought of representing justice to the free people of a once great nation… The Politicians are spineless except for the real patriots who speak freely of the Gorilla and the entitled ones who are waiting to step into their corporate entitlement offices are just waiting us out for the next britney event or Paris faux pah.

    I wish we had more Keith Olbermans and Lou Dobbs in our country…

  10. (Quoted By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer 48 minutes ago)

    “WASHINGTON – The Pentagon announced Tuesday that the United States mistakenly shipped to Taiwan four electrical fuses designed for use on intercontinental ballistic missiles, but has since recovered them.

    The error is particularly disturbing, officials said, because of its indirect link to nuclear weaponry and because of the sensitivity of U.S. arms sales to Taiwan, which China regularly denounces as provocative. The Defense Department said an investigation of the incident is under way.
    At a news conference, Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne said the misshipped items were four electrical fuses for nose cone assemblies for ICBMs. He also said they were delivered to Taiwan in 2006 and had been sent instead of helicopter batteries that had been ordered by Taiwan.
    Wynne said the investigation is meant to sort out what happened and how.
    The fuses were manufactured for use on a Minuteman strategic nuclear missile but contained no nuclear materials.” (Taken from internet:3/25/2008)

    Yet another great example for the potentially disasterous effects of our government being disconnected from reality and effeiciency. Or could it be worse actually…

    China and UAE have both been scurrying to get their hands on or in our defenses, on or in our ports as of late… UAE (Dubai) tried to “buy” in to managing our seaports until Bush got caught (Kind of like Spitzer pushing for illegals getting licenses here in NY) but when the press got hot on his tail along with almost all of NY, he backed off. So did Bush with Dubai ports deal…

    China is becoming so integrated into the heart of our pentagon defense grid with the same awe inspiring disbelief of our exposing our underbelly in this way that we may allow this deal to go through. China may just be the contractor to manage the top secret technology that allows us to sleep well at night.

    Could this be? Lou Dobbs calls it out on national T.V. all the time with the outrage it deserves, Just like the two border guards who are locked up in prison for trying to keep illegals and drug smugglers out of our country… These officers are in jail for doing the job we refuse to do!

    Corporate takeover! Inside Job! Who is responsible for corporatizing our government?!!!
    Allowing for these outrageous acts of idiocracy to be carried out?!!!

    Could this instance be China at the helm of our countries’ defense system? Trying a ‘dry run’ to see if they can ship themselves our defense systems now that they are in the pentagon???

    You know I don’t know… But if it smells like a rat it’s a rat…

    Corporate idiology over democracy in a government ruling over a people is simply called Fascism… Communism is kids stuff, this new fascism which is taking root in our country, heralded in from the master (Cheney) Halliburton, is where you’ll find the proof of this. No bid contracts?…. Why is it that every single one of these bafoons in our highest public office has some kind of defense company or contracting outfit that benefits them to the tune of billions???

    The lawyers and highest in the cabinet of our office of President and chief of staff and secretary of state and Vice President all fit the description and the role perfectly. Why did Condi Rice and the lawyer Zelicow (who also bound the hands of the 9/11 commision) wrote a book on the re-birth of the Nazi party?!!! Paul Wolfowitz, bows out after screwing his country and gets appointed by Bush to do what?!! Head up the world Bank?!!…

    Remember the outrage that some middle eastern (spelled A-R-A-B) company would be running OUR ports and letting
    who knows what and whom slip into our country to cause whatever trouble?? Well get this, Halliburton is moving to
    Dubai!! For real!! Thanks to Prairie Weather for pointing this out.(taken 3/25/2008 http://www.reconstitution.us/legacy/plugin/categorypdf_45)

    Two Enron traders get probation for crimes that cost Californians $Billions!!
    Two of three former Enron Corp. traders accused of driving up energy prices during California’s power crisis were each
    sentenced Wednesday to two years of court-supervised release in federal court.
    (taken 3/25/2008 http://www.reconstitution.us/legacy/plugin/categorypdf_45)

    Remember Bush’s first thing he did in as the decider??? He granted Enron the ability to screw california… Impeach him for this singularly for aiding and abedding.

    Bush meets Options Backdating scandal!!
    You just knew it was a matter of time before the Options Backdating scandal (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11) would eventually
    find a Bush in the crosshairs.
    President George W. Bush’s uncle, William H.T. “Bucky” Bush, was part of a group of outside directors at a defense
    contractor who realized about $6 million in unauthorized pay from an options backdating scheme, according to U.S.
    securities investigators.
    Bush and other non-employee directors who served on the board of Engineered Support Systems Inc., now owned by
    DRS Technologies Inc., are not accused of any wrongdoing in a civil complaint filed on Tuesday by the U.S. Securities
    and Exchange Commission.
    The SEC complaint, however, says the non-employee directors benefited from stock options not approved by
    shareholders.
    “As a result, the company provided significant additional compensation to its outside directors beyond what shareholders
    had approved,” the SEC complaint said. “These same directors later realized approximately $6 million from the exercise
    of their addtional stock options.”
    The complaint did not break out how much Bush and the other outside directors received from a total of 132,000 shares
    of unauthorized shares.
    Bush, whose brother is former President George H.W. Bush, was unavailable for comment. He served on St.
    Louis-based ESSI’s board from 2000 until the St. Louis defense contractor was acquired last year for nearly $2 billion by
    DRS, which sells engineering services to the U.S. military.
    (taken 3/25/2008 http://www.reconstitution.us/legacy/plugin/categorypdf_45)

    This is the brother of Bush who was CEO of the Company which supplied ‘security’ to the World Trade Center until 9/11/01 his contract ended on that day??? these punks are laughing at you and I…

    I’d go on, but I’d rather someone else chime in and puke for a while… Got enough evidence now to impeach!!! Got enough evidence now to scream inside job!!!

    No, of course not… I’m a liberal, that’s right… Good one, I’ll start working on my chinese now so I can be a good patriot when they take our lunch box and your kids lunchbox too.

    How about a President who doesn’t have an agenda or a defense company or who wasn’t butt buddies with Osama Bin Laden or HITLER (BUSH, SCWARTZENEGGER, ROVE,)or who doesn’t represent any corporation!!! HOW DID WE GET HERE!!!!

  11. Correction,

    9/11 Security
    Courtesy of Marvin Bush ?!!!

    Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
    According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center “up to the day the buildings fell down.”
    (taken 3/25/2008 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html )

    ????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ??????????????

    I stand corrected and what are you going to do???

  12. Joe Biden… You are a good man Sir.

    Why don’t you grab this stuff and lock down our government Sir… Air it out, call out these crimes!

    This ain’t no stained dress!

    You and other reputable heads of our Government should bring your sleeping bags (for real) and fillibuster our House of Representatives to air out these crimes on public record… The media then, couldn’t be gagged and bound to not report these serious crimes… Obama and Clinton can’t afford to “risk” their position in being so patriotic… Now, you can… and now you should.

    You dedicated your life to us for your service in politics (thank you)… Don’t strike out or balk now.

    We need you to lead us like never before… We can only do so much in venting our patriotism for the love of our country…

    Grab some Generals who were discraced out of their lifes’ service to us from these fascists, grab some federal Prosecutors who were thrown out from these fascists, grab some widows from 9/11 who were mocked by these fascists, grab some Republican congressman from Texas who consistantly scored 10% of Primary votes from these fascists, grab RFK,Jr. who wins in court when trying a corporation for crimes against nature and whose father and uncle were assinated by these fascists, grab Al Gore to voice outrage over his Nobel Prize being cheapened because “they” say he’s wrong about a whole other bees nest topic that we have yet to explore… Grab your B*LLS and your sleeping bag and ‘Let’s Roll’ for real.

    Our founding fathers get alot of press these days… Why?

    Because they actually stood for something. They wouldn’t tolerate this Sh*t! I hope and pray for someone like you, who can’t be tarnished as being extreme or liberal (like me). Our country will take you seriously and our children (and yours) need you to do this. The gravy train and the wholesale selloff of our great nation needs to be stopped, It’s breakaway at this point and we need “Superman” Big time!

    Be Superman Mr. Biden, who could throw a stone at you?

    We’re in ‘war time’? enough of that tired Bill O’Reilly crap… Shut it down Sir. Air it out…

  13. Jack Mosel

    And another inconveinient truth about the inside job that took place on 9/11…

    Makes you want to be real patriotic and support some more trickle down economics and have Bush burn more of your tax dollars to bail out another inverstment firm (I mean bolster the economy) aye?!!!

    Here’s some facts… Their just verifiable facts… No liberal slant here… DO THE MATH.

    A September 21 story by the Israeli Herzliyya International Policy Institute for Counterterrorism, entitled ?Black Tuesday: The World?s Largest Insider Trading Scam?? documented the following trades connected to the September 11 attacks:

    Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but only 396 call options? Assuming that 4,000 of the options were bought by people with advance knowledge of the imminent attacks, these ?insiders? would have profited by almost $5 million.

    **On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls. Again, there was no news at that point to justify this imbalance;? Again, assuming that 4,000 of these options trades represent ?insiders,? they would represent a gain of about $4 million.

    **[The levels of put options purchased above were more than six times higher than normal.]

    **No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago exchange in the days immediately preceding Black Tuesday.

    Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., which occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center, saw 2,157 of its October $45 put options bought in the three trading days before Black Tuesday; this compares to an average of 27 contracts per day before September 6. Morgan Stanley?s share price fell from $48.90 to $42.50 in the aftermath of the attacks. Assuming that 2,000 of these options contracts were bought based upon knowledge of the approaching attacks, their purchasers could have profited by at least $1.2 million.

    Merrill Lynch & Co., with headquarters near the Twin Towers, saw 12,215 October $45 put options bought in the four trading days before the attacks; the previous average volume in those shares had been 252 contracts per day [a 1200% increase!]. When trading resumed, Merrill?s shares fell from $46.88 to $41.50; assuming that 11,000 option contracts were bought by ?insiders,? their profit would have been about $5.5 million.

    European regulators are examining trades in Germany?s Munich Re, Switzerland?s Swiss Re, and AXA of France, all major reinsurers with exposure to the Black Tuesday disaster. [FTW Note: AXA also owns more than 25% of American Airlines stock making the attacks a ?double whammy? for them.]

    On September 29, 2001 ? in a vital story that has gone unnoticed by the major media ? the San Francisco Chronicle reported, ?Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11, terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data.

    The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors ? whose identities and nationalities have not been made public ? had advance knowledge of the strikes.? They don?t dare show up now. The suspension of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started looking.

    October series options for UAL Corp. were purchased in highly unusual volumes three trading days before the terrorist attacks for a total outlay of $2,070; investors bought the option contracts, each representing 100 shares, for 90 cents each. [This represents 230,000 shares]. Those options are now selling at more than $12 each. There are still 2,313 so-called ?put? options outstanding [valued at $2.77 million and representing 231,300 shares] according to the Options Clearinghouse Corp.?

    ??The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank Alex. Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some of these options?? This was the operation managed by Krongard until as recently as 1998.

    As reported in other news stories, Deutsche Bank was also the hub of insider trading activity connected to Munich Re. just before the attacks.

    CIA, THE BANKS AND THE BROKERS

    Understanding the interrelationships between CIA and the banking and brokerage world is critical to grasping the already frightening implications of the above revelations. Let?s look at the history of CIA, Wall Street and the big banks by looking at some of the key players in CIA?s history.

    Clark Clifford ? The National Security Act of 1947 was written by Clark Clifford, a Democratic Party powerhouse, former Secretary of Defense, and one-time advisor to President Harry Truman. In the 1980s, as Chairman of First American Bancshares, Clifford was instrumental in getting the corrupt CIA drug bank BCCI a license to operate on American shores. His profession: Wall Street lawyer and banker.

    John Foster and Allen Dulles ? These two brothers ?designed? the CIA for Clifford. Both were active in intelligence operations during WW II. Allen Dulles was the U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland where he met frequently with Nazi leaders and looked after U.S. investments in Germany. John Foster went on to become Secretary of State under Dwight Eisenhower and Allen went on to serve as CIA Director under Eisenhower and was later fired by JFK. Their professions: partners in the most powerful – to this day – Wall Street law firm of Sullivan, Cromwell.

    Bill Casey ? Ronald Reagan?s CIA Director and OSS veteran who served as chief wrangler during the Iran-Contra years was, under President Richard Nixon, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. His profession: Wall Street lawyer and stockbroker.

    David Doherty – The current Vice President of the New York Stock Exchange for enforcement is the retired General Counsel of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    **George Herbert Walker Bush ? President from 1989 to January 1993, also served as CIA Director for 13 months from 1976-7. He is now a paid consultant to the Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor in the nation, which also shares joint investments with the bin Laden family.

    A.B. ?Buzzy? Krongard ? The current Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency is the former Chairman of the investment bank A.B. Brown and former Vice Chairman of Banker?s Trust.

    John Deutch – This retired CIA Director from the Clinton Administration currently sits on the board at Citigroup, the nation?s second largest bank, which has been repeatedly and overtly involved in the documented laundering of drug money. This includes Citigroup?s 2001 purchase of a Mexican bank known to launder drug money, Banamex.

    Nora Slatkin ? This retired CIA Executive Director also sits on Citibank?s board.

    Maurice ?Hank? Greenburg ? The CEO of AIG insurance, manager of the third largest capital investment pool in the world, was floated as a possible CIA Director in 1995. FTW exposed Greenberg?s and AIG?s long connection to CIA drug trafficking and covert operations in a two-part series that was interrupted just prior to the attacks of September 11. AIG?s stock has bounced back remarkably well since the attacks. To read that story, please go to http://www.copvcia.com/stories/part_2.html.

    One wonders how much damning evidence is necessary to respond to what is now irrefutable proof that CIA knew about the attacks and did not stop them. Whatever our government is doing, whatever the CIA is doing, it is clearly NOT in the interests of the American people, especially those who died on September 11.
    (taken 3/262008 from: http://prisonplanet.com/suppresed_details_insider_trading_cia.html)

  14. Jack, as always, thanks for bringing so many truths to light here -and for providing lots of helpful links where readers can do more research on their own. While the MSM won’t report these stories, they are in fact true, and people just need to look it up amd see for themselves. Damn right it’s an outrage!

    The situation with China particularly troubles me, and now that the story is out about the parts delivery “mix-up” (is *that* what they call a provocative action these days?), maybe more people will start asking what the hell is really going on.

    I mean, if we can’t tell the difference between an ICBM missile fuse and a helicopter battery, we’re in big, BIG trouble.

    To Chrisy (Happy Belated Easter to you, too!), after the two campaigns I’ve run here, watching good people work their tails off only to see an election stolen right out from under a true-blue candidate time and again, I share your disillusionment about the electoral process. And yet, I feel we must keep trying. We can’t just give up.

    That, in large part, is why I started this website and joined the movement to draft RFK jr. – he is truly one of the few Americans I would honestly be able to feel good about leading this country.

    Speaking of RFK Jr., you asked if there is a Waterkeeper organization in Hawaii – I don’t think there is, so perhaps your young nephew can start one. It’s not very hard to do…the Waterkeeper website tells you how to start a local chapter here:

    http://www.waterkeeper.org/mainprogram.aspx

    Back on topic – how to put an honest man in the White House again: just out of curiosity, what do you think of Ralph Nader?

  15. chrisy58

    Jack, You brought some really great points that I hope people will take the time to read. You are speaking the truth. Though I am afraid to many people want to hide their head in the sand and deny the truth.

    NF, I do understand you not wanting to give up. I too am a fighter and it is very hard for me to let go and stop trying. As much as I may talk about giving up, I never really do. Does that make sense.

    How do we get an honest man elected to government? That is a great question. I think that we are making a start by having this site. Hopefully the honest men who are needed will read this site and decide that they will take the action needed to save this country before it is to late to turn things around.

    Jack’s post has examples of what is wrong and what we are fighting against, but yet no one seems to want to talk about or take the action necessary.

    I think by posting and having discussions about this topic and other important topics that we might be able to brainstorm and hopefully come up with ideas. At least we are educating others to the truth and hopefully they too will join the fight.

    I respect Ralph Nader. I don’t know if I will vote for him though. I don’t think I will know who I am going to vote for until I walk into the voting booth or if I will even vote for President.

    I don’t know if you can understand this, but I feel like for the past 10 years I have been living in a darkness and this past Summer I started to find my way back home to the light. I am finding my way back home to the truth. People in this country are lied to on many fronts, from the media, from our parents and people who hold political power. I believe people can be brainwashed into thinking something is true when in fact it is a lie. The Bush Administration is a great example of this.

    Yes, this election is very important and has very high stakes. Will the country continue to be in darkness or will the light of truth finally shine?

    NF I still want to write in Robert Kennedy Jr. I still think he is the best man for the job and I haven’t had my mind changed to vote for someone else. What are you going to do?

  16. Ralph Nader championed causes for the safety and well being for our countries’ citizens for all of his adult life. He is beyond reproach in terms of being bought by corporate interests, period.

    The problem with Ralph Nader is that in terms of running for President, his is essentially a “No vote”. Taking from the Democrats (usaully) neccesary votes that fortify them from a Republican victory. Very little now can be achieved from Ralph Naders’ run, except for further diminishing the Democratic nominees within it’s own party. This Clinton / Obama race taking on an election within itself, is a good indication that this is actually happening already. The polls from Main stream media show that if this continues, we may be in Iran, oops I meant Afghanistan, Oops, I meant Iraq for the next 100 years… Not to take away from the fact that for the first time in our history we may have a president that has a theme song for starting WWlll (Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran). Nice…

    I wonder what effect and contribution that Ralph Nader can add to diminish this seemingly ‘natural progression’ for the lust we have somehow manifested for engaging in war lately.

    Maybe he can bring something to light like fahrenheit 911 or the inconveinient truth about the missteps from Bush I getting into Kuwait or highlighting the debauchery of events which led to all the unanswered question about 9/11/2001.

    I believe Ralph Nader is a patriot of the highest accord actually. His stumping for this election should be in embracing ASTME (the society of mechanical emgineers) who are now seeking retractions and further investigations to the 9/11 myths in which ‘engineers’ were made to report in support of the many government influences that coerced them to buy the company line of “Jet fuel”.

    I don’t believe that Ralph Nader has a place in this election actually, anymore… It’s too late for that. McCain scares me actually, all this talk of our responsibility to Iraq for continuing to support their government will never buy us respect from them, never assure us of backlash from them when they don’t get all the color tv’s they feel they are entitled to, or the American lifestyle they might feel they deserve now that we annexed them… So on. John Mccain’s got it all wrong, we invaded them, we were wrong, we should have never let this rogue president or his wicked high school principle (Cheney) decide anything for us. McCain is a Bush clone (NWO tool) and we are in deep doo doo if this kind of cowboy foreign policy continues, let alone the contiuation of the evisceration of our Constitution will exponentially increase… Closed door meetings in the Senate, this past week folks… taking place now in secret, talking about our 4th ammendmet being discussed in private?!!! why take our arms? what’s really going on? Armed American citizens were never a problem before… Except when Americans took up arms against oppresive dictators in Britain. Something freeking stinks to high heaven here…

    I think therefore that putting an honest person in the White House means that the crimes of this past administration need to be brought to the light of day and prosecution of these crimes need to be persued. Who’s going to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Zelicow and Condi? Along with the host of party goers that carried out treasonous activities? A prosecutor right?… Why is it that you can’t find a cop when you need one.

  17. Jack – the other day I was asking myself the same basic question you just posed here: how can we let Washington know “there’s a new Sheriff in town” if we don’t even feel that the Sheriff-in-chief is trustworthy?

    Of course we know Bush isn’t going to prosecute the crimes of his own administration. The evidence trail in most of those crimes leads right back to the president and his own family!

    John McCain, as a loyal Republican, “supports his Commander in Chief,” and if elected, will never lift a finger to prosecute members of the previous administration for so much as a D.C. parking ticket, let alone war crimes.

    We can be pretty sure that if elected, Hillary Clinton will not be crusading for justice or transparency in government. She’s got her own closet full of skeletons inside the White House. Plenty of water under the bridge, shall we say – leave it at that.

    Whether President Obama would make it a top priority in his new administration to actually prosecute members of the prior administration remains to be seen. He certainly hasn’t mentioned it on the campaign trail, and I rather doubt he’ll want to go there.

    Most loyalists I talk to in the Democratic party say that impeachment “will never happen” and that no incoming democratic president is going to turn around and get into a legal tangle with the previous administration.

    Translation: No Justice.

    It seems to me that of all the presidential candidates currently in the race, Ralph Nader is the only one who has the desire, courage and prosecutorial ability to go after these thugs and finally get a little justice done.

    If you want an honest man who holds `em accountable, it seems that Nader would be the obvious choice this year. His track record proves that he can get the job done.

    That is, if they don’t assassinate him within the first 100 days. (Bill Maher said that.)

    The biggest problem Nader faces is ballot access, just as in 2004. As long as our election process is rigged to favor the two-party system, independent candidates will always be relegated to the back of the bus.

    They have to jump through so many hoops to get on the ballot in most states, and have to navigate so many legal barriers (which winds up costing a lot of money), you sometimes wonder why it’s even worth the effort. Why do independent candidates like Nader continue to try, when they know there’s no hope of winning? When you have to fight so hard just to get on each ballot in all 50 states? Why bother?

    Ah, that is the real question we need to ask ourselves. Notice how no viable independent or third-party candidate offered him/herself up this year. Not even Al Gore, with his VP experience, his Green Cred, Academy Award and Nobel Prize (not to mention a very valid vendetta over the 2000 election?) Not even Michael Bloomburg, with all his money and influence? Not even Lou Dobbs, with all his moxie and a built-in TV audience/base voting bloc? Not even our hero, Bobby Kennedy?

    One must stop and wonder if these big boys won’t do it, why not?
    And a bigger question: if they won’t do it, who will?

    These brave, wise and certainly wealthy men must have considered their options, weighed the cost (political and otherwise), looked at the raw data and made informed decisions not to wager on an independent run. Most smart investors would look at such a risky proposition and say it was an unwise investment.

    So it can only be sheer patriotism or devotion to advancement of particular cause that can propel a person to declare himself/herself a serious candidate for President these days. In that sense, Ralph Nader himself admits that he is a “no” vote – and that people who choose him on the ballot often do so simply as a way of saying, “none of the above.”

    At least half the battle is just getting him on the ballot so that voters DO have that choice. If they want theirs to be a protest vote, by law every American should have that right. Thus the evolution of the write-in candidate.

    Historically, many write-in candidates were also “none of the above” protest votes. But campaign workers grew weary of having to count so many “Mickey Mouse for President” votes over the years, and the rules (although not always the law…there’s the rub!) were changed.

    Election rules here in TX and in most states now make it extremely difficult to vote for write-in candidates. In practice, here’s how the system conspires to keep independent, third party and write-in candidates out:

    1) Electronic voting machines virtually *eliminated* the ability for a voter to write-in a candidate’s name on a ballot.

    Now, if you want to vote write-in on an electronic machine, you must ask a poll worker for assistance. Try it sometime. You will often get a “deer in the headlights” look, as they themselves have no idea how to get the machine to do that.

    2) In many states, only “registered” write-in candidates will be considered legitimate. And to be a “registered” write-in candidate, you have to jump through an incredible number of hoops just to get “registered.”

    If you walk into the voting booth that day and write-in the name of a candidate who is “unregistered” in your state (such as RFK Jr., for example), that ballot may be voided. And most likely will be, unfortunately.

    So for those of you who are leaning towards independence and breaking free of the two-party system this year, good for you! But be sure to know your state’s election laws (hell, you practically have to be a lawyer to vote independent these days, or risk losing your vote) and know your strategy BEFORE you walk into the voting booth. DO NOT APPROACH THE MACHINE until you know who you’re voting for and how to mark your ballot properly to make sure your vote will be counted – not thrown out on a technicality.

    If you want to get good and pissed off, just read the contorted process the State of Texas employs for the “qualifications” of “registered” independent, third party and write-in candidates. Like this little jewel:

    § 146.022. CANDIDATE’S NAME REQUIRED TO APPEAR ON LIST.
    A write-in vote may not be counted unless the name written in appears on the list of registered write-in candidates required by Section
    146.031.

    Acts 1985, 69th Leg., ch. 211, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1986.

    Or this:

    Sec. 192.036. WRITE-IN CANDIDATE. (a) With respect to a write-in candidacy for the office of president of the United States, this section supersedes Subchapter B, Chapter 146, to the extent of any conflict.

    (b) A declaration of write-in candidacy for president must satisfy the requirements prescribed by Section 192.032(b) for an independent presidential candidate’s application for a place on the ballot, except that a petition is not required.

    (c) The certification for placement on the list of write-in candidates must include the names of both the presidential candidate and the vice-presidential candidate.

    Acts 1985, 69th Leg., ch. 211, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1986.

    Oh, but you haven’t read the fine print yet. Write-in candidates “must satisfy the requirements prescribed by Section 192.032” – which is a long list of hoops they must jump through, here is a link to the full list:

    http://www.thirdparty08.com/cad2000/Home/BallotAccess/BallotAccessTexas/tabid/100/Default.aspx

    Whew! Sorry for the lengthy post, but this process is so convoluted that it takes several paragraphs just to explain the challenge write-in candidates and their supporters face…this and more is exactly why we have not officially persued putting Kennedy’s name on the ballot here in Texas in 2008.

    Texas is a tough state to get ballot access in. Dennis Kucinich was not admitted on the democratic primary ballot this year in TX, Nader couldn’t get on the state ballot in 2004. I mean, it’s tough, tough, tough.

    So even with a man like Kennedy, and all the media attention his family name brings, it would still be one hell of an uphill battle for him. If he should ever run as a third-party or independent candidate, he will likely find himself put out to pasture, just like Nader.

    These aren’t facts I am happy to report, believe me. I take no pleasure whatsoever in pointing out all the good reasons why Bobby Kennedy Jr. SHOULD NOT run. In this political climate, why, you’d have to be as crazy as Ralph Nader to go do a thing like that!!!

    Or you’d have to be as fearless and driven as Ralph Nader, depending on how you look at it. Like I said in an earlier editorial, Nader is either nuts or the bravest man in America…I’ll let you be the judge which one he is.:)

  18. chrisy58

    Great posts from both you guys. I always enjoy reading both your posts because I always learn something.

    I believe AZ has the same laws as TX so you are right, my vote won’t count.

    The thing is that I don’t think any of the three candidates will step up to the plate and expose the corruption. I don’t think they will pursue criminal charges against those who should be charged. I think it will all be wiped under the carpet as always.

    I feel like my choices are between twidle dum and twidle dee and twidle warmonger. Yes, Mc Cain scares me but so do the other candidates. All for different reasons, but the fact is that I don’t think they will actually do the hard work that has to be done in taking this government back for the people. I think it will be the same ole same ole.

    I like Nader the best and if by some miracle he makes it on the AZ ballot I may just vote for him.

    You see my heart is telling me one thing and my head is telling me what I must do. I don’t like what my head is telling me so I am fighting it as I don’t want to vote for people who I think are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

    We need real change and not just a campaign slogan that when that person gets the power will all the sudden forget about real change that he promised.

    Well I still have a few months to decide if I will follow my heart and throw away my vote by writing in Bobby Kennedy jr or by my head and hold my nose and vote for either twidle dum or twidle dee.

  19. Looks like we’re in the same boat, Chrisy! My head and heart are constantly at war over this year’s election, it seems – and yet my heart keeps telling me there can only be one real choice I feel 100% good about: RFK Jr.

    On the subject of Nader, I should point out yet ANOTHER snag in the election rules to anybody who is leaning towards supporting him.

    First: to get on the ballot in your state, Nader will probably have to collect petition signatures. If you want to help him get ballot access (even if you don’t plan to vote for him in the general, you can still help him get on the ballot for the sheer priciple of offering voters more choices!), you should sign the petition.

    Check out his website at http://votenader.org to find sign a petition in your state or volunteer to collect petition signatures for him.

    BUT….(and folks, this is a BIG but)…in most states, a person cannot sign an indepdendent, third-party or write-in candidate’s petition IF THEY VOTED IN THAT STATE’S PRIMARY ELECTION.

    In other words, if you voted in the Democratic or Republican primary this year, you cannot sign any third-party candidate’s ballot petition. If you do, your signature will be invalidated.

    That technicality is EXACTLY how Nader was denied ballot access in Texas before, and they will probably try it again this year. So to make sure every ballot signature is valid, this is an important thing to understand. Or else your candidate doesn’t get on the state ballot.

    Ah yes…more legal loopholes and hoops to jump through for both the voters and the candidates. Is it any wonder we can’t get honest folks elected in this country anymore?

    Who knew it took so much strategizing just to be an informed independent voter this year?

  20. Hector

    Nader is everything I want a President to be: smart, dedicated to justice, proven track record, honest, and trustworthy.

    Why should we accept anything less in a President of the United States?

    Nader `08!

  21. As usual Brave New World and Chrissy and Hello Hector… are right on the money.

    Problems with Nader 08’… Not enough “No vote” to make a difference. In fact, just the opposite… If we thought Bush/Cheney/Condi/ zelicow,rove,wolfowitz were bad… try a McCain administration… with incidentals like the office of President out of the way, Bush, Cheney out of office and “live” on the streets not held to public accountablility (as if it matters to them) would do… They would in a sense have free rein and operate the strings of the Presidency without public accountability, through their puppet.

    NO… I can’t / We can’t truck with this election in 08′. It’s either going to be a Hillary vote (if she lasts that long) or an Obama vote. We can talk about accountability for treason later, since none of the useless dead bodies in Washington, I mean the self-centered, useless, corporate puppet, slothful, criminal, idiotic, mindless, treasonous, sexually deviated, corrupt representatives we have to guide us and lead us from enemies within are asleep at the wheel and are too busy feathering their own nests.

    We are in really big trouble folks. We are past an easy solution. We are screwed on so many fronts that at all costs we need to in the least, stop the hemmhorage coming from our arteries… I can’t in good conscience even lightly jest that Nader or anyone for that matter even be concidered in this 08′ election, simply for these reasons alone.

    RFK, Jr. missed the boat (Huge)… It would have been great actually to see him in it in 08′ because his platform would have been to address every crime and treasonous, sordid affair that stunk to historic and epic proportions in nothing short of this BUSH/CHENEY coup d’etat, which has turned this once proud nation into the ‘Quagmire’ (thanks Dick! for the adverb and the admittance of guilt, before you were pro-Iraq war) that it is today.

    PROSECUTION… I say, cannot be taken off the table (Dammit).

    We’ll need to call for special prosecution, some way, some shape, some how in the next administration.

    G-d Please let the next Pres. Be Obama… For this hope only……

  22. Hey Jack – I must say I’m honestly surprised to hear the words “we can talk about accountability for treason later” from you…are you feeling allright, my friend? Need a Tylenol?

    Reading down to the bottom of your post, I see that you started to write like Jack Mosel again and said “Prosecution cannot be taken off the table.”

    OK, good. Jack is still with us! (Whew, ya really had me worried there for a minute…I thought you might have been abducted and brainwashed by aliens!!!) 🙂

    Have you heard Senator Obama utter ONE WORD about prosecuting the Bush administration for ANY of their crimes? Has he made one promise to that effect?

    I’ve listened to at least a hundred Obama speeches by now – and while they are indeed inspiring, he has not said ONE WORD about prosecuting his cousin Dick Cheney and/or Bush 41 or 43 (both of whom, it turns out, he is also related to). What’s he going to do – send his own family members to prison?

    I understand your point about Ralph Nader’s “no” vote taking away votes from the Democrats, but isn’t that the general idea? Isn’t that exactly why longshot indie and third-party candidates run – to force issues onto the plate of the two parties by mobilizing voters to stand up and be counted?

    The whole point of a third-party run, as I understand it, is to send a message to the two parties: “You’re not doing good enough! You’re not listening to us, and we demand representation in this process!”

    People got behind Nader in 1996, 2000, 2004 for that very reason. They came forward with a list of demands, if you will – issues they insisted the two parties were ignoring. This year is no different – and in fact, many of the issues Nader’s supporters cried out for in past years are still unresolved or have gotten worse!

    Why did problems like Iraq, corporate control of the political system, and corrupt politicians not go away?

    Because we kept voting for the same two-party hacks over and over again, expecting a different result.

    And what is the definition of insanity?

    I’m not stumping for Nader here…but I am a firm believer in the right of every American to have as many choices as possible when they walk into that voting booth. And for their right to vote their conscience without fear of being pummeled by their countrymen.

    I believe in the American tradition of going against the grain – rocking the boat -saying everything is NOT OK and pushing for change from the bottom up. When you read a little history, you soon realize that every major social change movement – be it ending slavery, equal rights for women and minorities, the anti-war movement, consumer rights, environmental protection, etc… came from the bottom up, and was always pushed to the forefront of the national debate by “fringe groups” and political third parties. You know – “whackos!”

    As these movements gained momentum, the laughter died down. Sometimes it took decades, sometimes it took 100 years or longer. But the change DID come – only after the movement became mainstream, and the two-parties picked up these issues as key components of their platform. You want change? That’s how it’s done.

    Remember the words of Ghandi:

    “First they ignore you,
    then they ridicule you,
    then they fight you,
    then you win.”

    I believe this is precisely why Nader has never given up the fight. And why we shouldn’t, either.

  23. chrisy58

    NF, thanks for your putting the words of Ghandi.

    “First they ignore you,
    then they ridicule you,
    then they fight you,
    then you win.”

    I too believe that real change comes from the people who refuse to give up in trying to get their voice heard. I think it is true that first they try to ignore us, then they ridicule us and I would like to think that they finally realize the truth and join us in the fight and than we will win.

    I am glad that people like Nader have not given up the fight. He is truly a man of courage, strength, and honor. I would like to see the debate open up to include people like Nader and anyone who decides to run for President so that both parties will be forced to deal with the issues that are so important to the American people.

    I also understand why there are people who because like the Titanic who started to sink after hitting an iceburg America is sinking after years of corruption, lies, and treason by the very people who swore to upheld the Consitution of the United States. They swore on the Bible their oath, but somehow they have forgotten all about the Consitituion or We the People. They allowed greed to make their decisions without concern on the effects that their decision would bring on the rest of us.

    I think that is why my heart is telling me one thing and my head is telling me another.

  24. “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you,
    then they fight you, then you win.”
    (New Frontier,2008)

    Maybe my temper has gotten the best from me, Maybe my disgust or indifference or intolorance has gotten the best from me or maybe a hint of desperation and PTSD has bashed me in the head to knock some common sense into me…

    I have the craving for Impeachment for these criminals in my DNA and the lack of anything looking credible for this happening anytime soon, or in any ‘news cycle’ soon, is looking bleak. That being said, the reality I feel we have in real choices, one’s that are worthy of putting my name and pen to the world are that of…

    What can really be accomplished at this point.

    We have a quagmire brewing of indescision in our two party system… Two candidates that are monumentally and historically different than anything we’ve seen come down the pike in our countries’ history.

    Both are good people. Both are on topic (sort of)and have rallied on ‘Change’. Both are probably going to have ‘us’ in mind, if elected.

    Both are talkin’ such middle of the road “Soup Toast” topic talkin’ cookie cutter politician topic pleasin’, 1970’s pure bread speech spittin’, lookin’ like they wanna kiss a baby smilin’… Presidential candidates.

    I’m in despair actually over this election. I see a real Nazi propaganda effort here in the media’s manipulation of our ‘only honest choices’ handed to us for our salvation from what has become acceptable behavior (which is beyond prosecution) acceptable Presidential behavior.

    For G-D’s sake (Please)President Bill Clinton ruined a dress and we lost our sh*t… Our country shut down and we spent $50,000,000.00 to investigate and impeach him!!!

    This guy (BUSH) (short of anyone splitting my hairs for being a conspiracy nut) in the least, lied about and manipulated us into a world wide quagmire (epoch proportions) of which we actually cannot for the love of Pete! find a plausable way out of the stink he got us into… and Impeachment is off the table?!!!!!!!

    Okay, we’ve established that already… Impeachment (for some reason which I’ll never know) is off the table, at least in-office proceedings will spare him now that we are so (Karl Rovianly) distracted by their tacticts, Thanx FOX and Bill O and Hannity… And (Limbaugh) stinking like limburger cheese.. For nothing.

    Trickle down economics… RAN DOWN MY LEG! how’s it workin’ for you?!

    Jesse and Bobby can fix this mess. Yes they can!

  25. Allison

    I looked through Jesse’s book in the bookstore today and in a conversation between Jesse and RFK, RFK told him that he is indeed interested in running for president. In fact, RFK was approached by the Green Party to run as presidential nominee of their party.

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