Green Party Candidate Cynthia McKinney Raises 9/11 Questions

Cynthia McKinney, Green Party nominee for President

Cynthia McKinney, Green Party nominee for President

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We hope you’ve enjoyed our week-long look at some of the independent and third-party candidates in this race. No doubt about it, independent voters are going to be critical to this election, perhaps even the scale-tipper in a race that is tight as a drum.

While the mainstream media continues to openly discriminate against independent and third-party candidates, we feel a responsiblity in the progressive blogosphere to let you know about lesser-known alternatives and give you a taste of what they’re saying.

The story below comes from the official website of Cynthia McKinney, Green Party nominee for President in 2008. Longtime readers of this blog may recall that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was approached by the Greens last year as a potential presidential candidate for their party. Bobby (a lifelong Democrat), politely declined.

Official Statement from Cynthia McKinney – September 11, 2008

Seven years ago, criminal terrorist attacks on the Twin Towers, the Pentagon were carried out on September with hijacked planes, that led to the deaths of thousands of people. A month later, key figures in the print and broadcast media and members of Congress were sent envelopes containing very lethal and highly weaponized anthrax, which led to the deaths of journalists and postal employees. After the initial shock diminished, there were calls for explanations, investigations, accountability and a reasoned response that did not include war. The administration ignored or openly opposed them. Instead we went into a call for permanent wars that would last beyond our lifetime, changes in civil liberties both overt and covert, a takeover of state power by the executive branch, and the creation of a national security emergency state that would somehow protect us.

Cynthia McKinney was one of the few voices of reason during that time in the Congress. Long an opponent of militarism and wars abroad, she also called for explanations and accountability when information began to come to light about multiple advanced warnings and apparent foreknowledge of the imminence and methods of the attack inside government intelligence agencies that still failed to prevent it. She supported calls by the families of the 9/11 victims for an official investigation in what was being termed a “failure of intelligence” even though it more closely resembled a failure of response, of standard operating procedures, and of government officials and agencies to respond and prepare for, or even comprehend the source of these attacks.

With the formation of the 9/11 Commission at the insistence of the families and the public, press attention and investigative journalism began to reveal much more about the historical relationship of our CIA and Pentagon with the same terrorists who were allegedly behind the attacks, about the role the US has played in the history and international relations in the Middle East since WWII, about illegal covert operations that were hidden from the people and the Congress and funded by profits from illegal drugs, about the obstruction of investigations into the hijackers prior to the events, and about the inexplicable failure of defenses during the attacks. When the official 9/11 Commission Final Report was released, it got wide attention and acclaim from the press, but the families said that 70% of their questions remained unanswered by this flawed investigation, and called for more hearings to get at the truth and to establish oversight and accountability.

Vilified and misquoted in the press at the time, McKinney had raised the first of many serious questions about the events and accountability in an atmosphere of denial. But she was vindicated when others began to ask the same questions in light of the evidence. Unable to get the Republican controlled Congress to allow further hearings, she organized a day-long briefing on the remaining questions and the flawed assumptions, investigation, conclusions and recommendations of the 9/11 Commission drawing on experts from across the country. A full transcript of that briefing appears at:

http://archives.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/mckinney.house.gov/20050722transcript.pdf

McKiinney marches with anti-war demonstrators, 2006

McKiinney marches with anti-war demonstrators, 2006

Long an opponent of government secrecy and an advocate of transparency in democracy, McKinney introduced legislation to release all the government classified files on Dr. Martin Luther King’s life and death. When she discovered at another public examination of the 9/11 Commission findings, held in New York City as a Citizens Commission, that every footnote at the end of the official report refers to interviews, documents and forensic materials that were sealed from public view by the Commission until 2009, she began to call for release of the records and evidence that are the only way to verify the conclusions of the official investigation. Most of these files were not classified or secret to start with. An effort to use the Freedom of Information Act to file requests of all the agencies involved for each document failed to release a single record to date. She continues to push for a release of all pertinent records in the case.

At this point, Cynthia McKinney stands in full support of the 9/11 families groups and the public who are seeking to establish a fully independent and transparent public investigation into the historical background, the events, the official response and aftermath of 9/11. The full truth is not yet known or established in this critical event that has shaped American domestic and foreign policy in the last seven years and may for decades to come.

McKinney is featured in a new British award-winning documentary called The Elephant in the Room (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4701757632630708538) about the public efforts to understand 9/11, and the Truth Movement.

She spoke out in New York City on the anniversary of the attack, giving several speeches and press conferences, including one at St. Mark’s Church on September 11.

For more information about Cynthia McKinney’s presidential campaign and the Green Party’s platform, visit http://gp.org or http://VoteTruth08.com

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46 responses to “Green Party Candidate Cynthia McKinney Raises 9/11 Questions

  1. Erin

    A new poll from a major Russian news outlet reveals that 84% believe that the truth behind the 9/11 attacks is being deliberately hidden by the U.S. government.

    Polls around the world, and in this country, reflect a growing skepticism about the government’s theory about 9/11.

    Cynthia is a real patriot, daring to stand up back in 2002 and raise questions. She keeps going, will not be silenced. I am proud to say she’s got my vote in 2008.

  2. How can you have a great article like this and not link to the two speeches she made on 9/11 in NYC??

  3. I believe in a long, prolonged, derangement of the senses in order to obtain the unknown.JamesDouglasMorrisonJames Douglas Morrison, lead singer of The Doors

  4. Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.SocratesSocrates

  5. Nader McKinney

    Dr Ron & Ralph

    “The two parties should be
    almost identical, so that
    the American people can
    ‘throw the rascals out’
    at any election without
    leading to any profound or
    extensive shifts in policy.”
    – Carol Quigley

    Cynthia Mike Dennis Jesse Ross Jimmy

    And the men* who hold high places
    Must be the ones who start
    To mold a new reality
    Closer to the heart

  6. Thanks for the links to Cynthia’s 9/11 speech, GreenGenes! Apologies for not including the video in the body of this article.

  7. Andrew Yu-Jen Wang

    There is substantial evidence that Bush was complicit with the September 11 attacks.

    Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
    B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
    Messiah College, Grantham, PA

  8. johnofsilence

    Open the debates! First one is Friday!

    I’m not a bot, I know you care about the democracy of our government, so we need to get this done. There are 6 Presidential candidates this year all of which are qualified and capable of winning, so why are there only 2 people on the debate! Bigotry, two party bias! Let’s flood the email inbox and the phone lines with: Open the Debates.

    It takes 5 mins. Please help me make a difference . Below is a script but please feel free to appropriately modify it to support your candidate .

    Step one:

    Call Barack Obama at 866-675-2008.
    Hit 6 to speak with a campaign volunteer.
    Once connected, politely deliver the following message:

    Hi, my name is …

    I was wondering if Senator Obama, being a believer in equal opportunity and equal rights, could insist that Cynthia Mckinney and other ballot qualified third party candidates be included in the upcoming Presidential debates?
    After all, Cynthia Mckinney is on 34 state ballots.
    And she’s polling well nationwide. And he could help Senator Obama challenge the corporate Republicans.
    True, Cynthia Mckinney would critique Senator Obama for his corporate ties also. But isn’t that what democracy is about? Could you please leave this message for the campaign manager? Thank you.

    Step two:

    E-mail Janet Brown jb@debates.org, the executive director of the Commission on Presidential Debates.

    Here’s a sample e-mail:

    Dear Janet Brown:

    Greetings. You must be busy. Preparing for the first Presidential debate this Friday. So, I won’t take much of your time. Just wanted to let you know that the American people were not born yesterday. We know the deal. Take that little private corporation that you run. Controlled by the two corporate parties. And funded by big business. For the purpose of excluding independent minded candidates. Friday, two Wall Street candidates are scheduled to be in the ring. Barack Obama and John McCain. The one candidate who represents the American people, Main Street, if you will, will be on the outside looking in. So, here’s a simple request. Drop your exclusionary restrictions. And let Cynthia Mckinney into the debates.
    It will be good for your conscience. Good for the American people. (I believe it was The League of Women Voters that called your corporatized debates “campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity, and honest answers to tough questions.”) And good for democracy. Let the American people have a real debate for once. Main Street vs. Wall Street.

    Thank you.

    Signed
    your name.

  9. Cleopatra

    It would be nice to let cynthia in the debate but if you want your vote to count I would not vote for her. People don’t know any thing about her. She has three weeks to show what she’s all about and that’s not enough time.

  10. Sentinel

    Sentinel
    March 20, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    Did Rudy say something wrong? “… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed.” Major questions exist as to why FEMA would deny being in New York City prior to 9/11 without mentioning the 9/12 bioterror drill. These questions must now be addressed as the initial suspicions of those who learned of the Tom Kenney statement have been clearly validated. The coincidental presence of a large FEMA team in NYC at the location, Pier 92, which became the Command Center for the entire emergency operation is disturbing. An alert press and a legitimate 9-11 Commission should have raised this issue long ago. [Scoop] Intel sources allege controlled demolition of the WTC was a U.S. DOJ “war games” exercise involving FEMA and run by former NYC Police Chief Bernard Kerik at Pier 29.
    Submitted by fedup 2006-02-05 10:47:15
    according to intelligence sources who asked not to be named until subpoenas and testimony commence. When Thomas Ridge resigned, the alleged 9-11 terrorist Kerik, SIDEKICK OF RUDY GIULIANI, was in line to become Secretary of Homeland Security after the passage of the U.S. Patriot Act; however, his appointment was derailed by Congress due to multiple irregularities and improprieties; Kerik was never subpoenaed for interrogation about these allegations involving Defense Department operations on 9-11 called “Code Angel” / Tripod II.

    2. TARGETED PAPERWORK/PERSONNEL DESTROYED AT THE PENTAGON: moreover, ONI officials themselves– ***some of whom WERE PROBING the fraudulent 10-year debt instruments allegedly held by Cantor-Fitzgerald in the doomed North Tower***–also perished along with the investigation files, all of which were curiously in the path of the 9.11 Pentagon impact. Colonel Hermann had offices in the Northwest corner of the Pentagon and he worked with David Rose of the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s office for the Queen of England. She said that Keith Johnson, the Queen’s signatory at Wachovia Bank, told her about the Office of Naval Intelligence being hit at the Pentagon on September 11–that there had been an ongoing investigation of money laundering in that Pentagon office.

    “For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
    Page 355Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani

    Tom Kenney: “We’re currently one of the first teams that was deployed to support the city of New York for THIS DISASTER. We arrived on late Monday night, and went into action on Tuesday morning. And not until today did we get a full opportunity to work the entire site.” (Tom Kenny MASS- FEMA/USAR) Sept 13, 2001

    “Normally, the department would thorughly familiar with the FEMA programs,but the authorities on the national Urabn Search and Rescue programs–Chief Ray Downey, Commissioner Feehan, and Chief Donal Burns– are all missing.” (Author) Page 202 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)

    “On the third night we had a guy arrested who followed ONE OF THE Urban Search and Rescue Teams. He had an orange jump suit on with a backpack, and he was wearing a helmet that said Rescue across the back. He had a book of some kind and followed one team and broke off from them after they were. He did a little shopping in the stores down on the concourse. Someone else tried to accompany ANOTHER USAR team down, but it leader was a pretty sharp guy from MASSACHUSETTS (Tom Kenny). “This guy is not one of ours,” he said.” You may want to check him out,” We called one of our cops over and found a ton of watches and cell phones in his backpack. They arrested him”
    Page 164
    FDNY Assistant Chief of Department
    Harry Meyers
    Report from Ground Zero
    (Dennis Smith)

    “We got there TWENTY MINUTES after the towers came down and Parked on the other side of City Hall. Someone brings us an ESU officer who was wandering. We put him our truck for accountability purposes. Behind his eyes you could see he was really shaken up, he would just look at you. We said, “you’re all right. Your with us now.” All he answered is “They came down.” I said, “I Know they came down.” We staged by the Woolworth Building and get a roster of who is missing and who is not. We then go to stuyvesant High School and from there to ground zero, where we see what kind of equipment we can salvage. FEMA WAS ACTIVATED, AND THEY SHOWED UP WITH EQUIPMENT THAT HAD TO BE STACKED.”
    NYPD Police Officer Anita Rosato
    Emergency Services Unit, Truck 10
    Page 126 Report from Ground Zero
    (Dennis Smith FDNY Ret)

    Day 2 September 12: “Later as it begins to get dark…” “I see the first squad of Urban Search and Rescue Teams pass by and I know they are specially prepared, equipped, and paid by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.” (Author)Page 198 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith) “Some of them HAVE ALREADY ARRIVED, for I saw the group from Seattle and another from Texas, all in very identifiable dark blue coveralls, with the initials USAR in large letters across their backs. Each team includes about fifty men and womenn specially trained in rescue work.” (Author)Page203 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)

    Paul Isaac (Sentinel at Large)

  11. Sentinel

    Sentinel (getting closer to the truth)
    March 16, 2009 at 3:21 pm
    “The Downtown Lower Manhattan Association and Department of City Planning, in their joint 1993 Plan for Lower Manhattan, proposed RADICALLY CULLING THE HERD OF OLDER BUILDINGS. The suggestion of even broader plazas, in place of OBSOLETE SKYSCRAPPERS, put a positive spin on an OFF-THE RECORD OBSERVATION BY THE DLMA spokesman that in order to stabilize property values, SEVERAL DOZEN DOWNTOWN OFFICE BUILDINGS WOULD SIMPLY HAVE TO BE RAZED.”Page 206Divided We StandEric Darton(1999)

  12. Sentinel

    Sentinel (getting closer to the truth)
    March 16, 2009 at 3:01 pm
    “The Port Authority closed the 1990s with a stream of press releases announcing the rental of unimaginable huges quantities of Trade Center office space to “Cutting Esge” firms like Sun Microsystems. Yet around the complex A MILLION SQAURE FEET STOOD EMPTY, and the building originaly intended as great catalizing chambers of world trade were by degrees, transforming into a kind of DISJUNTIVE REALESTATE LAYER-CAKE. One story above the carpeted,wood- paneled offices of a Japanese securities firm, A GROUP OF ARTIST FILLED BARE WALL WITH BOLDLY COLLORED IMAGES AND HUNG SCULPURES FROM THE EXPOSED CEILING GIRDERS OF VAST ECHOING CAVERNS. As part of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council program that TURN SOME OF THE VACANT SPACE IN THE TOWER OVER TO ARTIST RENT FREE, 40.000 SQUARE FEET OF CONCRETE FLOOR lay painted and strewn with the Raw materials of creative urge that has never been easily reconciled with the imperatives of a bottom line. Under such conditions, one could begin to read in the Trade Center symptoms of an internal fragmentation quite at odds with the image of a thriving, Class-A lower Manhattan Office Complex.”Pages 191-192Divided We StandEric Darton (1999)

    (posted By Paul Isaac )

  13. Sentinel

    Sentinel
    March 11, 2009 at 12:15 pm
    The Following testimony is from Dennis Smith (FDNY Ret). Author of Report from Engine Company 82. Honorary Chief FDNY (Lots of time on) This is a desciption of WTC7 from the about the time after the second (T2) Collapse. He is now on Vessey and West st pulling 6 and Half inch hose from FireBoat Harvey. He describes the following: “I learn then that the Chief has been clearing the area in anticipation of the collapse of the forty-seven stories of WTC7. Suddenly, several hundred firefighters are milling about, and when the order is given we all are moved back another few hundred feet from the corner of vessey and West. We jus mingle there, talking quietly, I meet a police captain, and ask if he has seen joe dunne, the first deputy Commisioner. The captain shakes his head and say, “It’s not Good, what I hear.” Page 175 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith) ” All of a sudden the forty seven story building before us begions to shake. “Its Comming down,” someone yells, and everyone gets poised to run in the oposite direction, I head to the with a small group into the bagelshop at the uptown side of the street, but I am watching the building as it begins to crumble, It falls almost as if in slow motion, sinking straight down, and then leans to the south, leaving most of its rubble against the north wall of building 6.” “I wait for the dark cloud of concrte dust to come hurtling towards us, but it rolls in the other direction, towards the northeast” Page 176 Reorpt from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)

    Withes 7 WTC down, the army of construction workers, police officersw, EMTs, and firefighters begins to work. People who have never met begin working side by side as if they have practiced for months.Page 177 Report from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)

    “KeySpan uses mechanized scissor-like devices to cut up the steel skin of the tanks, rather than torches, to avoid vaporizing the lead paint. In addition, KeySpan also laid down a special fabric cover to shield nearby buildings and vacuumed streets after the implosion”

    The Queens Gazette
    The Tanks Came Tumbling Down
    July 18, 2001

  14. Sentinel

    Sentinel
    March 2, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Fireman Paul Isaac: The Y2K- KeySpan- Maspeth-Twin Gas files

    …speaking of pre-9/11 terror exercises connected with the “Guiliani gang”, i might have something else: Some months ago, Aux LT Fireman Paul Isaac Jr (correct name) made already some news at PrisonPlanet.
    Isaac “was stationed at Engine 10″, across the street from the World Trade Center in 1998 and 99; Engine 10 was entirely wiped out in the destruction of the towers.

    Isaac came forward and said, that “many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.”

    I picked up the same story on my blog and helped him to find out, if there was possibly an additional gag order by ex-CIA James R Woolsey, but besides hearsay we couldn’t find any new evidence on that point.

    Isaac didn’t give up to dig more on 9/11.
    Meanwhile sick from the air of 9/11, his dedication to 9/11 research became extremely high.

    Isaac confidentially contacted me last week again and after i first denied,
    i promised to help a bit, basically for technical reasons and proper promotion of his research.

    Paul has no proper computer equipment at home.

    Following is now a collection of ‘documents’, which Isaac sees in a logical connection.

    I helped him to scan some stuff and locate original details.

    I would like to forward these files into this group to analyse what he has.

    I promised Isaac, that someone might help him to co-write an article.

    I also recommended not to focus on one particular document only, because it could be easily oversensationalized and distract from the other stuff he has “letsroll.org-effect”.

    Here are the files:

    To make it more personally, we scanned an older photo of Paul Isaac:

    The files:

    File 1:
    The following picture is a scan of the brochure of the 2000 Y2K “Y2K readiness disclosures”.

    On this brochure you see the names of some involved responsible spokespersons, among them Jerome Hauer (OEM, WTC 7 etc…)

    One of the main organizations, who also had been involved,
    was KeySpan, formerly Brooklyn Union Gas, as mentioned within this brochure on Page 3, as i recall.
    I found a confirmation of their “involvement” also here:

    http://web.archive.org/web/19990221102818/http://www.marketspancorp.com/about/y2k.htm
    KeySpan Energy’s Year 2000 Program,
    Year 2000 Readiness Disclosures

    Isaac pointed on the cover of this brochure and asked for confirmations of sun/shadow experts.
    He thinks, that the shadow which you see in the middle of the North Tower is an artificial constructed shadow from the Woolworth Building, possibly forced by a backlight projection.

    Isaac might explain this better and i would like to forward his personal notes ASAP.

    He thinks, that this could imply a symbolical “announcement” of the “attack” on the North Tower 9 months later, but possibly also could have been a test drive for a positioning of the bomb system.

    I replied, that critics could downplay this as a photoshopped “dramatization” without any further reason.
    Therefore he also suggested to add more files…

    File 2:

    A collection of WTC-postcards to make the point, that this shadow on the North Tower (as seen on the brochure -and not manipulated from us) was impossible.
    (Jean, our photographer in this group, might add now more clues)

    Because i was more interested in another angle of an article, he had in this collection, we also scanned the following picture:

    File 3:

    Here you see the Twin Towers and a little bit far away, two twin gas storage tanks.

    The story becomes now more interesting.

    These two twin gas storage tanks had been destroyed, in a controlled demolition, by KeySpan (formerly Brooklyn Union Gas), on July 15, 2001 – 7:02 am, on Maspeth Avenue in Queens, New York.

    July 18, 2001

    Isaac believes, that this controlled demolition was a test drive for the Twin Towers, because of similar “procedure”, effects, association AND nearby location.

    Here is one article about this event:

    http://www.qgazette.com/news/2001/0718/Front_Page/007.html
    The Tanks Came Tumbling Down
    July 18, 2001

    “…KeySpan uses mechanized scissor-like devices to cut up the steel skin of the tanks, rather than torches, to avoid vaporizing the lead paint. In addition, KeySpan also laid down a special fabric cover to shield nearby buildings and vacuumed streets after the implosion…

    …The twin gas storage tanks on Maspeth Avenue that hovered over Greenpoint and neighboring Queens for more than 50 years collapsed in a cloud of dust early Sunday morning after KeySpan Energy imploded the long unused structures…”

    Possibly unsurprisingly for us (and maybe known for some), Keyspan destroyed these Gas storage tanks together with Controlled Demolition, Inc. !!

    http://www.phillyblast.com/benthere.htm

    Structures: Keyspan Gas Holder No. 1 and Holder No. 2
    (formerly known as the Maspeth Holders)
    City: Brooklyn, NY (Greenpoint area)
    Location: Maspeth Ave. between Morgan Ave. and Vandervooft Ave.
    Date & Time: July 15, 2001 – 7:02 am
    Implosion Contractor: Controlled Demolition, Inc.
    General Contractor: Mercer Wrecking
    Height: Almost 400 feet tall each
    Explosives: 750 lbs. of shaped charges (375 per holder) and 25 lbs. conventional charges (12.5 per holder)

    These are all current Isaac files, i can provide.

    He might add more notes from other articles, but i thought, that’s already enough to build a story.

    I promised Isaac to send him all the links, once i’m finished uploading and sending him the first responses of our members of 9/11 Science and Justice Alliance.

    I think, an interesting article is possible.

    If there is enough response, i would post his email address.
    I cannot speak of the significance of his collection, but i think, he found some interesting stuff and it depends on how one write this.

    nico

    APPENDIX:

    http://www.keyspanenergy.com/corpinfo/about/index_all.jsp
    KeySpan Corporation was formed in May 1998 as a result of the merger of KeySpan Energy Corporation, the parent company of Brooklyn Union Gas, and certain businesses of the Long Island Lighting Company.

    On November 8, 2000, KeySpan acquired Eastern Enterprises, a Massachusetts business trust, and the parent of several gas utilities operating in Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

    http://www.keyspanenergy.com/corpinfo/about/leaders_all.jsp
    Corporate Leaders

    Robert B. Catell
    serves on JPMorgan/Chase’s Metropolitan Advisory Board

    Gerald Luterman
    former Chief Financial Officer of Arrow Electronics (1996-1999).
    http://www.arrow.com/
    Luterman began his career with Booz-Allen & Hamilton
    (linked to PNAC member, ex-CIA James R. Woolsey)

  15. Sentinel

    Sentinel (For Beverly) RIP
    February 13, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    More Unanswered Questions re: Keyspan Tanks

    Paul Isaac is an Auxiliary Fireman and first responder.
    He has spent an untold number of hours doing in-depth research compiling
    many areas of evidence challenging the official account of 9/11.

    The image below illustrates a parallel between the
    demolition of the Keyspan Maspeth Holding Tanks in Queens, NY on
    July 15th, just a few months before 9/11. Although explosives were
    outlawed, somehow with the Giuliani administration in power, this
    demolition was carried out even though the surrounding area was
    residential. You can still see the Queens Gazette article from 7/18/01
    here.
    Also,

    The height of the tanks is approximately the same
    as the height from where Flight 175 struck the south tower and the
    top of the building. The angle of the collapse of the South Tower
    (see Image 2) was almost identical to the angle of the demolition-cased
    collapse of the tanks (see Image 3). Also, the antenna from Tower
    One came down in the same direction, into Tobin Plaza rather than
    west towards the World Financial Centers. The demolition of the
    tanks was planned and carried out by Controlled Demolition, Inc.
    Isn’t it interesting that this company also was contracted to do
    the cleanup after the Oklahoma City Bombing, then again for cleanup
    of the World Trade Center towers? Also, see the Online Journal article
    here
    by Jerry Mazza.

    It’s important to realize that pilots flying planes
    into LaGuardia Airport used the Keyspan tanks

    as markers on their approach route.

    Career Army Officer Sues Cheney, Rumsfeld For 9/11 Complicity

    April Gallop files suit for failure to warn people inside Pentagon despite advance knowledge, as well as prior knowledge and complicity in terror attacksPaul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet.com
    Thursday, December 18, 2008
    A career Army officer who was injured in the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 is suing Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for failing to issue a warning that American Airlines Flight 77 was about to hit the building despite receiving knowledge of its approach some 20 minutes in advance.

    Retired Army officer April Gallop, a ranking specialist with top secret clearance who began working at the Pentagon in 2000, has also filed suit against US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11.

    54. Similarly, defendant Rumsfeld — like the President himself, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defendant Gen. Richard Myers and others — testified and said in public, repeatedly, that no one in the Government security apparatus ever imagined terrorists suicidally crashing planes into buildings. This claim was also absolutely false. In point of fact, the CIA, the NSA, the FAA and NORAD had planned and trained for just such a possibility. Indeed, the record shows training exercises involving such a potential attack had in fact been carried on at the Pentagon in October, 2000 and May, 2001, and that NORAD had begun planning in July, 2001, for a training exercise in which the premise would be that a hijacked airliner was crashed into the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission, however — with the same studied indifference it showed towards the Mineta testimony — failed even to mention these contradictions in its Report, let alone explain them away.

    “For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
    Page 355Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani

    Below we see the flattened tanks on the left, and
    the complete demolition at Ground Zero. Also, below we see what
    very much appears to be 2 different Osama Bin Ladins. Which one
    are we supposed to believe was responsible for 9/11? If he indeed
    did orchestrate 9/11, why isn’t this listed on the FBI web site’s
    Most Wanted section? Why did an FBI official named Rex Tomb claim
    “the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11″?

    Did you know Enron supplied gas to Keyspan? Did
    you know Enron, which was being investigated by the Security and
    Exchange Commission, had files destroyed in the collapse of WTC7?

    Did you know Keyspan was in a joint venture with Enron in 1998?
    Here’s an excerpt from a press release:

    ENRON TO MANAGE GAS SUPPLY FOR BROOKLYN
    UNION

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, February 13, 1998
    HOUSTON – KeySpan Energy Corporation and Enron Capital & Trade
    Resources Corp. (ECT), a subsidiary of Enron Corp., today announced
    an agreement whereby ECT will provide gas supply management services
    for Brooklyn Union Gas, the primary subsidiary of KeySpan Energy.
    Under the terms of this agreement, which is subject to approval
    by New York Public Service Commission, ECT will assume responsibility
    for managing Brooklyn Union’s interstate pipeline transportation,
    gas supply and storage.

    Wouldn’t a real investigation pursue
    this trail and see where it leads?

    The brochure cover below from a city publication prior
    to 2000 shows a strange looking shadow on the north face of Tower
    1 coming from 250 Broadway which stood next to WTC7. Paul noticed
    this strange shadow, pointing out that the sun could not have caused
    this due to the direction of its path. Why would an official city
    document have this oddity? Could this signify something ominous?
    Could this shadow be pointing towards the Keyspan Tanks? Note the
    yellow line in the image below. These are questions Paul is calling
    to our attention.

    Also, did you know Keyspan got a baseball park built
    under the company’s name? For more, click
    here.

  16. Paul Isaac (sentinel)

    I wanna send big up shout out to the
    Veterans for 911truth

    Especially lynne and Ben.

    Sentinel

  17. Paul Isaac (sentinel)

    This message is for the “truth movement”

    If you can’t police yourself don’t expect to betaken seriously by those in power or the ordinary Americans.

    Because there some shady people ( wolf in sheeps clothing) operating calling themselves advocates for truth but actually are exploiting 911 for financial gain and are involved in criminal embezlement and
    are confidence specs.

    Some have very prominate names and really pretty names.

    You will be exposed very shortly…

    For the people who keep it real with us…
    We will keep it real for you,

    That is my promise too you.

    Thank you

    Paul Isaac Jr (Sentinel)

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    What’s the point if your scared to see the truth?

    How dare we look at American and complain
    about indiscretion while refusing to ackowledge our own!!!

    When it comes to 911 truth

    I compare it to drinking a glass of water with dirt in it.

    If your credibilty comes into question and it’s not
    “kosher” then there’s no further point in pursuing it.
    If criminals , skelz, pikes and child porn promoters are going to lead us to justice then I’d preffer tyrrany and slavery and dictatorship because at least
    We see their cards on the table.

    Thanks

    Paul Isaac (sentinel)
    911wtc survivor
    Freedom Fighter

    It’s like

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    “Get Busy Living or Get Busy Dying”
    Morgan Freeman ( The Shawshank Redemtion)

    Sentinel

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    Hi Mark my name is ******* and I want to thank you for making a website like yours. I was planning to do the same thing
    because I had lost my brother in law in 9/11. He was a fireman Lt.
    Robert F Wallace. Due to Loose Change theories my nephew Danny
    Wallace got caught up in trying to find the truth and got caught up
    with a group in NYC truth911.org What happened next was horrible. I
    felt like they used my nephew because of this father that died in
    9/11, my reason for being that they used him you can you tube a vide
    of Danny Wallace talking for truth911 and see other videos of him
    taking to an NBC anchor man calling a 911 family member an *******.
    Anyways the fact being i felt this group hurt our family. It was bad
    enough we lost Robert Wallace Dannys father but because they got
    Danny Wallace all caught up in 911 theories that made him more
    depressed and he over dosed on sleeping pills or downers as they
    called it. He died this year a few days after his birthday. Every
    time i hear about Loose Change or truth911.org and there meets ever
    11th of the mother really gets me pissed and want to stop them from
    hurting other families.

    So I thank you
    – ******

    His girl friend ****** was with him the night he died. She is heavily into the 911truth.org movement.

    I do not know the full story of what happened to my nephew but from what we my family were told by Danny’s girl friend ******. (what i am about to tell you i am still so confused about because her story changed so much into what happened or what he or she did that night, only ******* really knows)

    Version 1: Danny stayed over at her house that night in Queens and was having trouble breathing, ****** thought nothing of it and just let him sleep and in the morning she found him very blue and called 911.

    Version 2: Danny was having trouble sleeping so he took some sleeping pills was having trouble breathing ****** thought nothing of it so in the morning when she woke she found him blue and not breathing.

    Version 3: ******* and Danny had just got back from a party and Danny had bought the pills at the party from someone, took them to help him fall asleep. He took 1, then said these pills aren’t working so took about 15 or some stupid amount of these pills and later that night was having trouble breathing, ******* waited till morning when she woke and saw he was blue and not breathing.

    Version 4: Danny had bought these pills from this kid and ******* is unsure how many pills he took or what kind they were but the pills had some numbers on it. In the morning She found him blue and not breathing.

    Now after his death our friends were telling all different kind of things that ******* had told them what happened these were the versions I heard had happened. So many things went in my mind theories. I wanted to put blame but I don’t know the truth. I do know she know more to what happened then she was telling us. But she loved Danny and Danny loved her, she went out with Danny for years I believe it was 7 or 8 years they have been seeing each other. What really kills me though I hear now she is currently with this Luke kid the one that was suppose to be Danny’s newly found best friend who dragged him into the truth911 movement! I am so outraged by this but I keep quite because of my family.

    Our Family is together as a whole but Danny’s mother and my mother Danny’s grandmother wants to believe in truth911 movement because Danny believed in it so much as they see it, to me he was almost brain washed and being feed misinformation by them. But they are mothers, what are they suppose to do? shortly after Danny’s death, Dan was suppose to do a speech for the truth911 in Las Vegas but because of his death his mother went there to speak for Danny.

    Also what got me, was when Danny was alive the truth 911 was telling Danny they will be making a movie about all of this and he was going to be in the movie. It really seemed to me like they used Dan. Their videos on you tube of Dan really shows it they used Danny and his fathers name so they can push their own ideas on people. It is not a movement for truth but a movement for their thoughts and propaganda to be pushed on victims of 911 and the america people.

    You know what really pisses me off about this? It’s not that Luke lied about Dan’s death or Infowars is using a corpse for their gains, but that I am completely unshocked by this entire situation. I’ve been dealing with these psychos for over a year and seen their tactics. This does not surprise me

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    Dear Mrs Mckinny,

    For security purposes I ask you to please reconsider this situation.

    God Bless

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    Goodmorning,

    Google: “JREF”
    “Richard Gage Still Begging For Dollars”

    Why would a famouse Architech be asking
    for people to send him money or be asking
    asking “Take An Architech To Lunch”?

    Why would Seattle firemen get into cohoots
    with people who ripped off brother ny firmen
    Engine 7 Ladder 1 who actually went through 911 then come
    acting like no one knows sbout it?

    Strange goings on indeed.

    Definately more to come….

    Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)
    FDNY Auxiliary Fire Corps

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    For the last time:

    The wingtv article is false
    slandered me because they were
    called out. They expect that I was
    Reading fintan dunne article CIA fakes
    I took the time to ask them about it at
    the anniversary infront of eberyone.

    Thats proof the LC boys edited there extra
    Video. The wingtv got their feelings hurt
    so on the next wrongtv wrote a false bs
    artcle amd the “truth movement” smeared
    my name.

    You look at the Villagevoice “Conspiracy theorist
    invade ground zero” by sarah ferguson

    Google “My New Hero Paul Isaac Jr” by JREF (Pat)

    Demecraticunderground “vilagevoice covers 911 protest”

    Loosechange 1st and 2nd edition extravideo

    The thought that people can stand on holy ground
    disrespecting sacred ground is astounding to say
    the least.

    Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)
    FDNY Aux Fire Corps

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    Enough Is Enough (144 posts) sweetsacrifice
    Member Hope you don’t mind another drop-in share. Feel free to share your thoughts.

    Note: You may not understand this completely if you have not been working in the Ny sector, but i will do my best to walk you through it. If nothing else drop me any questions you wish, and i will do my best to get to them soon as capable. ………………………… ………………………… ………………………… ………………………..

    This is not the Alex Jones, We Are Change, Louder Then Words, (or Ron Paul) movement..this movement is about 9/11, and getting down to what really happened. And enough is enough. This weekend and on was a total disgrace, hypocricy, and the elitist behavior that has been brewing has proved destructive here in Nyc. I hope somehow those of you in other places have made up for this, but there is no doubt this was the “center stage” because of the ceremonies.

    Having dealt with CHANGE personally, and their heirarchy, i’m not surprised in the least by their behavior. Jones i was at least hoping for better from, but i knew anything could happen, and Louder Then Words demonstrated what they were about when they banned people from their forums, who they got research for their movies from. As well as their childish behavior that followed. Yet here we were, ending the 6th anniversary with these very individuals, from Luke Rudkowski to Dylan Avery, and beyond, leading the way under who they called “the Grand Infowarrior”, Alex Jones. Are we trying to be freemasons? I thought we knew better then to make people into icons. I thought we knew better then to follow anyone but ourselves. People are human, and sometimes worse.

    Change and Les Jameisons’ ny911truth spent the last year dividing up Nyc, they both then unleashed organizations with narrow-agenda’s..the very principle most all in the movement(including those very previously mentioned individuals) claimed to be against. No politics, no parties..just investigation and truth. But long behold we have left groups, right groups, you name it…and as groups that ate up real sincere and diverse organizations that they were attached to previously and could have been. Slick promotion and a connection with Alex Jones is something that Jameison and crew did not have, and so it was Change that got the glammer image. This probably has alot of you who are fans saying “wtf is he talking about?”. Well give me a fair chance.

    Let me take you back only to Sunday. I visited Webster Hall in Manhattan, got a look at how the event was going. Quickly i found the scene alarming. Looking like Hollywood, chosen son after chosen son of the movement came through to a welcome wagon, and everyone else had to go through a barrage of security. As if it wasn’t disturbing enough, half the security was Change’s own security! It was then that i found out that they had filled the PUBLIC protest on Saturday night, with security as well(available in pictures off their site, some of which i saved). Security coordinating with the cops to, as Nate of Change said, “Keep the people in order.” Are you serious? Well i gave him my words for that, and rightfully so. Whether it’s gone to their heads or worse, it’s safe to say the problem is directly among us, as much as it is around us. We have hit the “controlled” stage, for certain. Most of the people who go out to Change events are sincere people, i want to make that clear. But the problem that they have had sinse the beginning is that they are a group based around heirarchy, lingering on icon cultship. Of course Mr. Rudkowski would be quick to exclaim, “there are no rules, so how could anyone rule”. But if there are no rules, how could you have security. Who had the head pieces, Mr. Rudkowski(and friends)? Enough said. Caught in a lie there, sir. Not the first time. We have a huge and perhaps now fatal problem.

    Surely enough, along came the Tuesday event. The one that was supposed to “make history”. Before i get to this..let me discuss some important issues:

    If you have seen the promo’s by We Are Change, or have seen the webpage for the 6th anniverary events, themselves, you would find it quite interesting. The site opens up with, as a couple people put it, monster truck rally type announcing. The videos bring mtv like flashwork and icons…yes, there will be JACK BLOOD, LOUDER THEN WORDS(loose change), ALEX JONES, WE ARE CHANGE(five heirarchy only shown, out of the many people in the group. Luke front and center.), ect. Lack of focus on the truth, lack of focus on showing the solemnity of the time, drawing people with facts-nothing like that-just a vma award type of promotion. How innappropriate and narrowly focused.

    There is then the problem, and Change admits this about themselves, that the keynote 9/11 event of the year(and perhaps the most important yet..well undoubtably) was seized by the hands of a group that is hardly a truth and justice for 9/11-focused group. Their events and coverage also largely focus on the tax activist Brown family, the income tax itself, the belief that global warming isn’t manmade, and of course the campaign of Ron Paul..who has come to say on camera “I don’t believe 9/11 was a government job.” We have quite a hypocricy here on the last one. And what a good job confusing someone just learning about the truth behind 9/11, when you hand them a dvd and a ron paul sticker. Wait till they hear him talk about the 9/11 commission and how great it is, at a debate! Or when they find a clip of him denying the truth about 9/11. Horrible move. And this has undoubtably been a big reason why the movement appears to have seen a near halt in growth the last few months, after all the growth these past couple years. Not that Change are the only ones who have partaken in that. This is a terrible mistake. But point being, a group that has it’s own specific agenda-which will be both too much for some, and sometimes not agreed with by many others in the movement(including people new to it)-should not be running an unowned event that is focused specifically on the truth behind 9/11.

    And this is where todays event comes in. And where Alex Jones comes in.

    He knows how big an icon he is. Sadly it’s true. My feelings on Jones before this have always been, “He’s human, seems to do some good, but he’s human.” Those thoughts and feelings on him and his crew have now spiraled quickly after watching this all go on. From not only failing to warn away the Change security, but rather having quite a bit of it surround him; to not rejecting being made a rock star..or should i say pope..or grand freemason..or whatever; to essentially giving Change and Loose Change miracle grow; to failing today to even bother to help ignite the kind of post-ceremony action at the World Trade Grounds that we had last year and gained the attention of many; he has a big hand in this. Yes he has. There was no major speakout following the ceremony at the grounds, there was not a whole lot of disbursing amidst the crowd as the time neared, either. Just waiting..and waiting..and then leaving, off to other places with a fraction of the onlookers. There was a short spout of pouring rain(20 minutes tops), but everyone was still there when it was done, and nothing happened. So much for promises.

    These 5 days of events in Nyc were all about promotion of self. From start to finish. It was never about the families, victims, ect. Not to the “leaders”. Someone can say what they want about the money donated to the first responders(if they get it all, where’s the fund?), but even that was just a way for the “big names” to propagate themselves as kings and queens of the phrase they’ve dirtied,”9/11 truth”. End Game and Loose Change Final cut got major promotion for their videos which will cash out big time. These three entities are going to attempt to come out of this, more then ever as the coup de grace, and as Change put it, “the only real truth group.” It’s not truth if you don’t live up to it.

    Sorry to say. I’m very angry, dissapointed, disgusted, and doubtful about our changes. Many of us sacrificed way too much, times we can never have back, swallowed personal pains just to take part, you name it, and this is what it has come to. My deepest apologies go out to all those living and dead victims, because of what happened. You deserved alot better..even if you don’t know it yet. As a man once said(before it got adopted by Keith Oberman), Goodnight and goodluck. God certainly knows it’s going to be needed.

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    MarkyX22nd August 2007, 07:21 AM

    I only wished Danny could have seen how these people turn things around and use people. Danny was a smart kid and very reasonable to talk to and he will sit and listen to someone side to a story in a debate. But when he called me to look at the Loose Change video I some what believed in some of it but that was because I had no clue about anything Loose Change was telling me so I kept an open mind and did some research of my own. I also told Danny about my doubts but he seemed so caught up in this “Movement for truth” he was almost blind to it. It was like they told him what to think and when you are always with someone (this someone was Luke) that tells you how to think and always has something to say about what experts say I guess you can be blinded. To me Danny just wanted the truth and the answer to why his father died. But he got caught up in these theories instead and was steered away fro m the truth and blinded by these people.

    As far as how Danny died, the police did say it was natural. What out family was told by the Autopsy was because of the overdose of unknown pills, sleeping pills or downer pills our family is not sure of what kind of pills he took but because of a combination of that and his heart disease which he were un aware of until his death that is what caused his death. Heart disease and taking those pills.

    His girl friend ****** was with him the night he died. She is heavily into the 911truth.org movement.

    I do not know the full story of what happened to my nephew but from what we my family were told by Danny’s girl friend ******. (what i am about to tell you i am still so confused about because her story changed so much into what happened or what he or she did that night, only ******* really knows)

    Version 1: Danny stayed over at her house that night in Queens and was having trouble breathing, ****** thought nothing of it and just let him sleep and in the morning she found him very blue and called 911.

    Version 2: Danny was having trouble sleeping so he took some sleeping pills was having trouble breathing ****** thought nothing of it so in the morning when she woke she found him blue and not breathing.

    Version 3: ******* and Danny had just got back from a party and Danny had bought the pills at the party from someone, took them to help him fall asleep. He took 1, then said these pills aren’t working so took about 15 or some stupid amount of these pills and later that night was having trouble breathing, ******* waited till morning when she woke and saw he was blue and not breathing.

    Version 4: Danny had bought these pills from this kid and ******* is unsure how many pills he took or what kind they were but the pills had some numbers on it. In the morning She found him blue and not breathing.

    Now after his death our friends were telling all different kind of things that ******* had told them what happened these were the versions I heard had happened. So many things went in my mind theories. I wanted to put blame but I don’t know the truth. I do know she know more to what happened then she was telling us. But she loved Danny and Danny loved her, she went out with Danny for years I believe it was 7 or 8 years they have been seeing each other. What really kills me though I hear now she is currently with this Luke kid the one that was suppose to be Danny’s newly found best friend who dragged him into the truth911 movement! I am so outraged by this but I keep quite because of my family.

    Our Family is together as a whole but Danny’s mother and my mother Danny’s grandmother wants to believe in truth911 movement because Danny believed in it so much as they see it, to me he was almost brain washed and being feed misinformation by them. But they are mothers, what are they suppose to do? shortly after Danny’s death, Dan was suppose to do a speech for the truth911 in Las Vegas but because of his death his mother went there to speak for Danny.

    Also what got me, was when Danny was alive the truth 911 was telling Danny they will be making a movie about all of this and he was going to be in the movie. It really seemed to me like they used Dan. Their videos on you tube of Dan really shows it they used Danny and his fathers name so they can push their own ideas on people. It is not a movement for truth but a movement for their thoughts and propaganda to be pushed on victims of 911 and the america people.

    You know what really pisses me off about this? It’s not that Luke lied about Dan’s death or Infowars is using a corpse for their gains, but that I am completely unshocked by this entire situation. I’ve been dealing with these psychos for over a year and seen their tactics. This does not surprise me

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    Gravy22nd August 2007, 08:14 AM
    I’m not going to say who it was, but they are extremely angry they are using Dan’s name and his father’s to protect themselves. As I said before, I did took out some parts of the email that were rather personal by their request. They are sick of these people and want to inform others like myself about what really happened, otherwise they wouldn’t have emailed me about this in the first place.

    MarkyX22nd August 2007, 08:27 AM
    Luke was a 9/11 Denier on ground zero who befriended Dan Wallace, son of firefighter Robert F Wallace on 9/11. Dan Wallace wanted to know what happened to his father and the local truth movement organization there told him the usual stuff like “bombs were in the towers” and so forth. They have used Dan as a shield before when Mark Roberts was at Ground Zero, trying to spin it as debunkers were being jerks to the 9/11 victims.

    However, he died and Luke said he died of “natural causes”, however many members of the movement believed he was killed by the government because he was “too close to the truth”. Not once did Luke mention anything about an overdose (Dan started taking pills after meeting up with Luke due to depression) and the other members of the movement such as Infowars try to spin it as Dan was assassinated by the government.

    nlarosa22nd August 2007, 02:50 PM
    I am Dans uncle in FL West Palm Beach and it is a personal matter with my nephews death. But when they make up lies about the government assassinating him it then becomes a public matter because they are lying to people and making some kind of movie? of some sort to bring more believers. I don’t know the reason for their lies to make money to be in history books or what i just don’t understand it. But i would like to know how people feel about them lying to the public when they say they are asking for the truth and they claim they know the truth. I recently saw a video of popular mechanics and Jason Bermas – Producer and Researcher of Loose Change debating and every time popular mechanics says a fact or that they spoke to an expert on the field about Jasons claims, Jason just yelled and called them a liar. These people are lairs! and can’t back anything up with fact. All they do is twist the fact by leaving details out for their interests.

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    The following is from another New Yorker also disappointed with 911Truth Cult scene
    Check out there experience at the 2007 anniversary and ask yourself it looks like the
    Brownshirts of Germany?

    Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)
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    Enough Is Enough (144 posts) sweetsacrifice
    Member Hope you don’t mind another drop-in share. Feel free to share your thoughts.

    Note: You may not understand this completely if you have not been working in the Ny sector, but i will do my best to walk you through it. If nothing else drop me any questions you wish, and i will do my best to get to them soon as capable. ………………………… ………………………… ………………………… ………………………..

    This is not the Alex Jones, We Are Change, Louder Then Words, (or Ron Paul) movement..this movement is about 9/11, and getting down to what really happened. And enough is enough. This weekend and on was a total disgrace, hypocricy, and the elitist behavior that has been brewing has proved destructive here in Nyc. I hope somehow those of you in other places have made up for this, but there is no doubt this was the “center stage” because of the ceremonies.

    Having dealt with CHANGE personally, and their heirarchy, i’m not surprised in the least by their behavior. Jones i was at least hoping for better from, but i knew anything could happen, and Louder Then Words demonstrated what they were about when they banned people from their forums, who they got research for their movies from. As well as their childish behavior that followed. Yet here we were, ending the 6th anniversary with these very individuals, from Luke Rudkowski to Dylan Avery, and beyond, leading the way under who they called “the Grand Infowarrior”, Alex Jones. Are we trying to be freemasons? I thought we knew better then to make people into icons. I thought we knew better then to follow anyone but ourselves. People are human, and sometimes worse.

    Change and Les Jameisons’ ny911truth spent the last year dividing up Nyc, they both then unleashed organizations with narrow-agenda’s..the very principle most all in the movement(including those very previously mentioned individuals) claimed to be against. No politics, no parties..just investigation and truth. But long behold we have left groups, right groups, you name it…and as groups that ate up real sincere and diverse organizations that they were attached to previously and could have been. Slick promotion and a connection with Alex Jones is something that Jameison and crew did not have, and so it was Change that got the glammer image. This probably has alot of you who are fans saying “wtf is he talking about?”. Well give me a fair chance.

    Let me take you back only to Sunday. I visited Webster Hall in Manhattan, got a look at how the event was going. Quickly i found the scene alarming. Looking like Hollywood, chosen son after chosen son of the movement came through to a welcome wagon, and everyone else had to go through a barrage of security. As if it wasn’t disturbing enough, half the security was Change’s own security! It was then that i found out that they had filled the PUBLIC protest on Saturday night, with security as well(available in pictures off their site, some of which i saved). Security coordinating with the cops to, as Nate of Change said, “Keep the people in order.” Are you serious? Well i gave him my words for that, and rightfully so. Whether it’s gone to their heads or worse, it’s safe to say the problem is directly among us, as much as it is around us. We have hit the “controlled” stage, for certain. Most of the people who go out to Change events are sincere people, i want to make that clear. But the problem that they have had sinse the beginning is that they are a group based around heirarchy, lingering on icon cultship. Of course Mr. Rudkowski would be quick to exclaim, “there are no rules, so how could anyone rule”. But if there are no rules, how could you have security. Who had the head pieces, Mr. Rudkowski(and friends)? Enough said. Caught in a lie there, sir. Not the first time. We have a huge and perhaps now fatal problem.

    Surely enough, along came the Tuesday event. The one that was supposed to “make history”. Before i get to this..let me discuss some important issues:

    If you have seen the promo’s by We Are Change, or have seen the webpage for the 6th anniverary events, themselves, you would find it quite interesting. The site opens up with, as a couple people put it, monster truck rally type announcing. The videos bring mtv like flashwork and icons…yes, there will be JACK BLOOD, LOUDER THEN WORDS(loose change), ALEX JONES, WE ARE CHANGE(five heirarchy only shown, out of the many people in the group. Luke front and center.), ect. Lack of focus on the truth, lack of focus on showing the solemnity of the time, drawing people with facts-nothing like that-just a vma award type of promotion. How innappropriate and narrowly focused.

    There is then the problem, and Change admits this about themselves, that the keynote 9/11 event of the year(and perhaps the most important yet..well undoubtably) was seized by the hands of a group that is hardly a truth and justice for 9/11-focused group. Their events and coverage also largely focus on the tax activist Brown family, the income tax itself, the belief that global warming isn’t manmade, and of course the campaign of Ron Paul..who has come to say on camera “I don’t believe 9/11 was a government job.” We have quite a hypocricy here on the last one. And what a good job confusing someone just learning about the truth behind 9/11, when you hand them a dvd and a ron paul sticker. Wait till they hear him talk about the 9/11 commission and how great it is, at a debate! Or when they find a clip of him denying the truth about 9/11. Horrible move. And this has undoubtably been a big reason why the movement appears to have seen a near halt in growth the last few months, after all the growth these past couple years. Not that Change are the only ones who have partaken in that. This is a terrible mistake. But point being, a group that has it’s own specific agenda-which will be both too much for some, and sometimes not agreed with by many others in the movement(including people new to it)-should not be running an unowned event that is focused specifically on the truth behind 9/11.

    And this is where todays event comes in. And where Alex Jones comes in.

    He knows how big an icon he is. Sadly it’s true. My feelings on Jones before this have always been, “He’s human, seems to do some good, but he’s human.” Those thoughts and feelings on him and his crew have now spiraled quickly after watching this all go on. From not only failing to warn away the Change security, but rather having quite a bit of it surround him; to not rejecting being made a rock star..or should i say pope..or grand freemason..or whatever; to essentially giving Change and Loose Change miracle grow; to failing today to even bother to help ignite the kind of post-ceremony action at the World Trade Grounds that we had last year and gained the attention of many; he has a big hand in this. Yes he has. There was no major speakout following the ceremony at the grounds, there was not a whole lot of disbursing amidst the crowd as the time neared, either. Just waiting..and waiting..and then leaving, off to other places with a fraction of the onlookers. There was a short spout of pouring rain(20 minutes tops), but everyone was still there when it was done, and nothing happened. So much for promises.

    These 5 days of events in Nyc were all about promotion of self. From start to finish. It was never about the families, victims, ect. Not to the “leaders”. Someone can say what they want about the money donated to the first responders(if they get it all, where’s the fund?), but even that was just a way for the “big names” to propagate themselves as kings and queens of the phrase they’ve dirtied,”9/11 truth”. End Game and Loose Change Final cut got major promotion for their videos which will cash out big time. These three entities are going to attempt to come out of this, more then ever as the coup de grace, and as Change put it, “the only real truth group.” It’s not truth if you don’t live up to it.

    Sorry to say. I’m very angry, dissapointed, disgusted, and doubtful about our changes. Many of us sacrificed way too much, times we can never have back, swallowed personal pains just to take part, you name it, and this is what it has come to. My deepest apologies go out to all those living and dead victims, because of what happened. You deserved alot better..even if you don’t know it yet. As a man once said(before it got adopted by Keith Oberman), Goodnight and goodluck. God certainly knows it’s going to be needed

  27. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Many ask: Are there FDNY Auxiliary Firefighters?

    We say yeah

    We are the ones who ignored and shunned by our family and yet here are in the middle of Battle.

    I wonder how many FDNY auxiliary firemen
    Were lost that no one knows about3

    Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)
    FDNY Aux Fire Corps

    —————————————————
    “Another of Angelini’s sons, Mike Angelini, an auxiliary firefighter, was standing alongside Fire Chaplain Mychal Judge, helping the injured who poured out of the twin towers. He escaped death, even as the beloved cleric was killed.”

    How much heartbreak must family bear?
    By MICHELE McPHEE DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

    Wednesday, September 19th 2001, 2:23AM

    Anne Angelini got the grim news yesterday that the body of her husband – firefighter Joseph Angelini Sr. – was among those recovered from the rubble.

    But her search is not over. Her son, firefighter Joseph Angelini Jr., is still among the missing.

    “I knew they were both in there. There is no way my husband would have left that building without his son, without Joey,” the grieving widow and mom said.

    “In some way, I’m glad they were together. There is no way they could bear the heartbreak of losing each other.”

    Joseph Angelini Sr., 63, a 40-year veteran of the FDNY’s Rescue 1 in Manhattan, had been assigned to light duty this month, which restricted him from fighting fires.

    But when he heard that his son’s company, Ladder Co. 4, was in the World Trade Center, he left his post and plowed into the collapsing building.

    “I’m surprised they were not found together. Those two were inseparable,” Angelini said. “Their families came first, but the Fire Department was their life. That was all they talked about.

    “I knew this was coming, but I still wasn’t ready. My husband had us all convinced he was Superman. But I’m still hoping for a miracle with Joey.”

    Another of Angelini’s sons, Mike Angelini, an auxiliary firefighter, was standing alongside Fire Chaplain Mychal Judge, helping the injured who poured out of the twin towers. He escaped death, even as the beloved cleric was killed.

    Anne Angelini said her husband always dreaded retirement.

    340 still missing

    “The Fire Department was going to make him retire at 65, but he never wanted to quit,” she said. “At least with this, he’ll never have to face retirement.”

    The Angelinis, who live in Lindenhurst, L.I., weren’t the only family hit with the loss of more than one member. Among the 340 or so firefighters and cops still missing were fathers and sons, brothers, uncles and cousins.

    Retired Fire Chief Joseph Vigiano has spent the last eight days at Ground Zero, digging through the rubble and joining the bucket brigade, looking for any sign of two sons – Joseph, an NYPD Emergency Service Unit detective, and John, a firefighter assigned to Ladder Co. 132.

    Yesterday afternoon, Vigiano realized his prayers for a miracle have yet to be heard, but he was sadly relieved when rescue workers recovered the body of his firefighter son, John.

    “How can a man lose two sons?” Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen said of the families’ struggles last week. “How could that happen?”

    Police Detective Maureen Regan, whose brother, firefighter Donald Regan, assigned to Rescue Co. 3, is on the list of missing, said the long search has not just left her own family reeling, but also her neighbors, close friends, and coworkers.

    “Everyone I know has been affected by this. Everyone. There are so many cop families, fire families,” said Regan, who works in the NYPD’s Intelligence Division. “The sad stories come one after another.”

    Yesterday, two sisters-in-laws kept vigil by phone from their homes in Staten Island and upstate New York, waiting for news about firefighter brothers – Lt. Harvey Harrell from Rescue Squad 5 and Lt. Stephen Harrell – assigned to Battalion 7.

    Into the blaze

    The men, both FDNY veterans, were part of the specialized units that went into the towering inferno to pull people out, but have yet to emerge from the rubble themselves.

    “We want them back. We miss them.” Rachel Harrell, Harvey’s wife, said from the couple’s Staten Island home yesterday.

    “But if anyone will get out of this, my husband will. His brother will. They were really fantastic firemen.

    “The whole family is destroyed over this. But we are not giving up hope.”

    Stephen’s wife, Megan, was being comforted by family members yesterday and could not be reached.

    Mary Ill is still keeping faint hope that her husband, Ladder Co. 2 Capt. Fred Ill – who received national acclaim in 1999 after he rescued a Bronx man whose legs were severed after he was shoved in front of a subway train – will be found alive.

    For now, she is taking solace that her son, Fred Ill 3rd, made it home.

    Joyous reunion

    She spent a long, terrifying night thinking her son, a probationary firefighter with Ladder Co. 58, was listed among the missing. He made it home from the blast just after 1 a.m. Wednesday, covered with soot, limping from fatigue but otherwise uninjured.

    Now she is hoping her husband will be the next one to walk through the door of their Pearl River home.

    “The waiting is terrible,” she said yesterday from her home. “My son was on the list [of missing firefighters] for a while, our nephew was on the list. But, thank God, they made it home.

    “Now we’re just waiting for word on my husband.”

    On Long Island, a wake was held yesterday for FDNY Capt. Timothy Haskell from Squad 18. His brother, Battalion Chief Thomas Haskell Jr., has not been found.

    Timmy Haskell’s body was recovered. Authorities told the family that Timmy was on the 60th floor of Tower One when it collapsed.

    “It helps to have closure on Timmy. In a way, it helps to know he died doing what he loved, and it was quick,” said Dawn Haskell-Carbone, the Haskells’ sister.

    “Meanwhile, we just continue to pray for Tommy. We still have very strong hopes for Tommy.”

  28. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    paul isaac (NYsentinel) Says:

    May 27th, 2009 at 10:31 am
    Is anyone going to look into the Danny Wallace Conspiracy?

    Seems someone got some explaining to do

    “As far as how Danny died, the police did say it was natural. What out family was told by the Autopsy was because of the overdose of unknown pills, sleeping pills or downer pills our family is not sure of what kind of pills he took but because of a combination of that and his heart disease which he were un aware of until his death that is what caused his death. Heart disease and taking those pills.

    His girl friend Sabrina was with him the night he died. She is heavily into the 911truth.org movement.

    I do not know the full story of what happened to my nephew but from what we my family were told by Danny’s girl friend Sabrina. (what i am about to tell you i am still so confused about because her story changed so much into what happened or what he or she did that night, only ******* really knows)

    Version 1: Danny stayed over at her house that night in Queens and was having trouble breathing, Sabrina thought nothing of it and just let him sleep and in the morning she found him very blue and called 911.

    Version 2: Danny was having trouble sleeping so he took some sleeping pills was having trouble breathing Sabrina thought nothing of it so in the morning when she woke she found him blue and not breathing.

    Version 3: Sabrina and Danny had just got back from a party and Danny had bought the pills at the party from someone, took them to help him fall asleep. He took 1, then said these pills aren’t working so took about 15 or some stupid amount of these pills and later that night was having trouble breathing, Sabrina waited till morning when she woke and saw he was blue and not breathing.

    Version 4: Danny had bought these pills from this kid and Sabrina is unsure how many pills he took or what kind they were but the pills had some numbers on it. In the morning She found him blue and not breathing.

    Now after his death our friends were telling all different kind of things that Sabrina had told them what happened these were the versions I heard had happened.

    Danny Wallace (RIP)
    Son of FDNY Lt Robert Wallace E205(RIP) BKLYN NY

    Reply

  29. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    NYTimes

    VOLUNTEER FIREMEN WANTED BY THE CITY; Auxiliary Force Planned to Take the Place of Men Called to the Army. TWENTY FOR EACH COMPANY These Will Take Turns in Sleeping in Firehouses and Answering Alarms.
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    Jun 9, 1918, Sunday

    Page 17, 942 words

    New York City is to have a volunteer fire department. Strictly as a war measure, because of the number of regular firemen who have gone into the war service, it has been decided to have an auxiliary force who will help out the regulars whenever required.

  30. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    City of New York
    FIRE DEPARTMENT
    LEGAL DIVISION
    August 15, 1983

    To: Adolph S. Tortoriello, Chief of Support Service
    From: Caryn Bernstien, Summer Intern
    Regarding: Workers compesation Coverage for Auxiliary Firemen

    “Political subdivisions of New York State are mandated by Statute to prepare and implement plans for services in connection with civil defense. The Fire Department, as a municiple agency, is required to, Recruit, equip and train either directly or through other political sub divisions of the state auxilairy fire in suficient numbers to permit the most effective utilization of all fire aparatus and to perform such other functions as may be required during and subsequent to attack”

    Unconsolidated Laws-State Defense $9312(D) (24).)

    (NYsentinel)

  31. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Auxiliary firmen, Enrolled as civil defense volunteers serving under the New York State Defense Emergency Act, are covered for disability, death, infection and disease by special provisions of the Workers Compensation Law. (Article 10_Workers compensation act for Civil Defense Volunteers, Enacted 1951.)

    training and practice exercises for volunteer auxiliary firemen and rescue squads are compensable as Hazardous employment under $3(1) (group 17) provided that such exercises are:

    A) Sponsored or authorized by local office of ivil Defense and;

    B) held at the direction of or designated as state training and civil defnse commission.

    This coverage is mandatory. A 1952 opinion of the state comptroller, Interpreting$3, Specific that workers compensation coverage must be provided for auxiliary firemen and members of rescue squads during training and practice periods. (8 OP. State Compt: 39< #5509)

  32. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Civilian Preparedness in New York City

    Funding of citizen Corps and Cert in NYC:

    “The problem with funding Citizen Corps and CERT in NYC is Two Fold: D.C. does not give to give NY State its fair share of funding for the civil defense programs and Albany in turns does not give NYC a fair share share of the money it was awarded.”

    “New York City is being asked to more with less. Dispite the fact that it has nearly half of the states population and is the highest-risk locality in the state, NYC has not recieved a proportional and share of CERT funding from FFY02-FFY04 and its share for Citizen Corps has deprciated by 34% since FFY02.”

    Note 8/1/8: Tell me how when there is not inter-agency intell (Real time) how 15.000 MOS are going to protect millions?

    (NYsentinel)

  33. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Re: FDNY Auxiliary?
    « Reply #33 on: August 01, 2008, 02:18:45 PM »

    ——————————————————————————–
    This was a little something I put to “Americas Mayor” before 9-11. He was givin a “vunerabilty list” by former NYPD Chief Lou “Big Lou” Annimone before 9-11 which sited WTC as a vunerable target for terrorism.

    I loved how he disribed the look “Glazed.” I call it “Glazed Doughnuts” What did “Americas Mayor” turn around and do?

    He put a command and Control Operations Center right smack in the middle of it.
    Go Figure

    “I was under the impression that if the mayor were to hear that two aux cops assisted in preventing the death and injuries to posibly hundreds of people in midtown 7/27/00 17Pct 2100hrs. That he show an interest in it but I guess I was wrong in assuming that. I’m sorry that I was trying to do the right thing when we noticed people in trouble. Maybe it could have been someone in your family in that bus hostage situation that we were tracking. But I’ve learned an important lesson in this matter, to mind my own business and when I see someone in trouble or as was our case a life and death emergency relating to a bomb threat in midtownmanhattan on a crowded bus on a crowded street we’ll just follow your example and stay out of it. Thanks for a lesson well taught. Paul Isaac Jr APO#12017-438136-17Pct.”

    E-mail Letter to NYC-GOV Monday September 11, 2000 1657Hrs.

    Note 8/1/8: My partner and I were commendably dismissed 27 September 2000.
    Funny how I never recieved discharge papers or notice from the FDNY.

    (NYsentinel)

  34. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Everytime NYC called us We always Rolled forn Her. We arent about to change Now…

    NYTimes.comArticle Preview
    For a Volunteer Fire Auxiliary.
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    THOMAS J. McCARTHY.

    March 23, 1905, Thursday

    Page 8, 133 words

    (NYsentinel)

  35. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    nlarosa Posted: Sep 25 2007, 01:30 PM

    Newbie

    Group: Members
    Posts: 1
    Member No.: 7,329
    Joined: 25-September 07

    ok in this video posted by wearechange. Rivera first flashed my brother in laws prayer card!!!! and then is yelling in the video ” i didn’t find my family member because of you, because you threw them away” and then so goes on ” I didn’t find them because of this scum” WTF she did not lose anyone 9/11 and she is not my family member why the hell do they put my family into this? They have no respect at all for anyone, I lost all respect for Rivera we told her to leave our family out of this These people seriously have something wrong with them, they just lie and don’t care what they are lying about.

    Do you people really care about the victims? Because i know Sabrina and she did not lose anyone 9/11 she is a lair just like you people it seems. WE HAVE ASKED TO LEAVE OUR FAMILY OUT OF THIS AND NOT TO SPEAK FOR DANNY WALLACE BECAUSE HE CAN’T SPEAK FOR HIMSELF ANYMORE PERIOD!

    DON’T USE MY BROTHER IN LAW WHO DIED 9/11 EVER AGAIN Lt Robert F. Wallace YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK AND MAKE ME SICK!

    Lin Kuei Posted: Sep 25 2007, 02:00 PM

    logical progression

    Group: Admin
    Posts: 770
    Member No.: 1,896
    Joined: 2-February 07

    Whomever you are, this is a matter to be brought up with wearechange, it is their video. They have a website: http://www.wearechange.org

    closed.

  36. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Sunday, May 24, 2009
    Shoe is on the other foot
    Louie Bee
    http://www.crotchshotradio.com
    May 24, 2009

    We feel extremely reluctant to discuss the current situation with “WE ARE CHANGE”, but it needs to be addressed if we are going to move forward in this movement. This situation has been extremely disruptive, and we hope we can all come to a resolution in a civil and honest manner. It should be known that I’ve tried to deal with this in a private setting, hoping to shield the rest of the movement from this unnecessary drama. However, Luke Rudkowski has put us in a position where that is no longer possible. It should be also noted that Luke Rudkowski that over the past few months, the following has occurred:

    Luke Rudkowski routed all donations totaling over $100,000 (according to the chip-in flash application gauge) to his PRIVATE BANK ACCOUNT (just like Les Jamison of NY911truth did). Luke Rudkowski has 100% control of donations that come to We are change. Luke Rudkowski has yet to give a real detailed financial report in two years which is supposed to be provided according to voted on bylaws.

    Luke Rudkowski has made slanderous statements regarding the integrity and allegiance of myself and others and accused us of being cointelpro. And the only crime we committed was asking questions and demanding answers about the bank account. Luke Rudkowski’s false and slanderous accusations have given this movement a black eye. The punishment for asking questions to Luke Rudkowski is chapter deletion from main site without a democratic group vote. We will not allow Luke Rudkowski to become judge, jury and executioner in the case against devoted members.

    Luke Rudkowski has refused and ignored any efforts by us and other members of WE ARE CHANGE to deal with this situation. Luke Rudkowski has ignored our request to see records. Instead Luke Rudkowski just accuses people of being negative or trying to cause the group to split. We are change only just recently said they have become a registered LLC. No proof has yet to be shown.

    Luke Rudkowski has publically stated that he is the steering committee. Luke Rudkowski only surrounds himself with new people who will not disagree with him and whoever wants to stay in the cool crowd. Luke Rudkowski has also stated that we are change shouldn’t be a democratic group and all decisions should come from him and him alone. Luke Rudkowski has allowed all the great things he has accomplished to go to his head.

    And we won’t even get into how Luke Rudkowski screwed Tom Foti, one of our most active and dedicated members, when Tom questioned Luke Rudkowski.

    We feel that actions speak louder than words. We will not stoop to calling Luke Rudkowski an infiltrator. But we will bring the proper attention to his actions. This needs to be resolved in a way where everyone in the group has a voice. This isn’t a dictatorship. It’s an activist organization that will only prosper through teamwork. Personally, we have nothing to hide and we are not afraid of airing this situation out in the proper forum. Also the “WE ARE CHANGE” that we have come to know is no more. We believe in working with in the law to bring change.

    Lastly, Luke Rudkowski had the same problem with Les Jamieson of NY911truth. According to Luke Rudkowski, Les did the same exact thing to him. THAT’S WHAT YOU CALL A HYPOCRITE!!!!

    Read his open letter at http://www.wearechange.org/ny911truth/index.html in the event that this link is disabled we have taken screen shots to prove it.

    Signed,
    We Are Change Latino & We Are Change Pennsylvania, Inc.

    UPDATE

    WE ARE CHANGE NYC disabled the link here are the screenshots

    Posted by Louie Bee at 5/24/2009 03:27:00 PM
    Labels: luke rudkowski, WE ARE CHANGE, wearechange

  37. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Saturday, May 30, 2009
    the shoe is on the other foot part 2

    In Response to my article about the finances of We Are Change. It seems like we pissed some people off. I recently got an email from someone with a Russian email(look at the screen shot). The Email is claiming they can hack into Luke Rudkowski’s PayPal account. This is obviously illegal. This by definition is a Cointelpro tactic because Vladimir Ivanovich is trying to get me to hire him to do something illegal to get information. The reason we are not cointelpro is because we are asking Luke Rudkowski for information for him to do something totally legal. This is the first and not the last trap they will set for us I am sure. Which means we are heading in the right direction to find out who has really infiltrated and taken over the 9/11 truth movement that has become more religion than a force for change. Recently We Are Change NY took down the link that had an open letter from Luke Rudkowski about his problems with the way NY911truth handled thier money. We simply will not stand for it. If i may quote a song from Tom Petty and the heartbreakers song I wont back down,

    Well I won’t back down
    No I won’t back down
    You can stand me up at the gates of hell
    But I won’t back down

    No I’ll stand my ground, won’t be turned around
    And I’ll keep this world from draggin me down
    gonna stand my ground
    … and I won’t back down

    To those of you out there we want the truth and we will get the truth. You have shown your hand and in the words of remo concious song “we know”. we know what your doing and we know that you are out there.

    The bottom line is we voted for reports we voted for the group to become incorporated and people came to me to speak up and hold luke to the groups decisions and now they all left me alone while they stand with luke calling us evil.

    And to answer everyones question Luke Rudkowski screwed Tom Foti in the usual sense – Tom wanted to know where the money from T-shirt sales and donations was going, so Luke branded him cointelpro so he would go away. Seems par for the course for Luke.

    below are the screen shots from [url]http://www.wearechange.org/ny911truth/index.html[/url]

  38. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Wednesday, June 17, 2009
    More Questions For Luke Rudkowski
    Luke, what are you doing with the money? Again more question come up. After Luke raised money for his legal defense fund which was originally meant for him and two others this mysteriously turned into the “Save Luke from getting butt raped in prison fund”. Well I did a search on the New York State Court Unified Court System at http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/DefendantSearch searched for Lukasz Rudkowski. Since Lukasz was able to raise $4k for the legal defense fund. I had to find this a website that had the wearechange NY legal defense fund chip-in widget on another website cause again Luke is trying to cover his tracks. why does he have a legal aide lawyer? What has he done with money he raised for a lawyer? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STOP THE HERO WORSHIP AND REALLY WONDER WHY WE ARE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS!! HERE IS YOUR PROOF 9/11 SHEEPLE.

  39. Paul Isaac NYsentinel

    The Money is getting into his personal account through his paypal. When people donate and this is the slick thing Luke put matt lepachacks email linking to the paypal to cover his tracks a little. I dont have proof that you can see i just have my word and the word of 6 other people who been with the group for 2 years. When i was starting change latino i asked luke how i can get donations without breaking the law he said dont worry about it this is why if you look on my site no place to give donations cause im not down for cyber begging. I would rather pay taxes. I am not accusing luke of anything cause i dont have any hard evidence i am asking questions. But paul ask yourself this I did a search on the New York State Court Unified Court System at http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/DefendantSearch searched for Lukasz Rudkowski. Since Lukaszwas able to raise $5k for the legal defense fund; why does he have a legal aide lawyer? What has he done with money he raised for a lawyer? More mystery involving Lukasz and large amounts of money.

  40. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Cynthia McKinney Reportedly Taken Captive By Israeli Navy
    June 30th, 2009 by Ronald Hardy · 7 Comments
    The latest from http://www.freegaza.org reports that the humanitarian vessel Spirit of Humanity has been attacked and boarded by the Israelis 23 miles off the coast of Gaza. Former US Congresswoman and Presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney is among the 21 human rights workers taken prisoner off the ship.

    [23 miles off the coast of Gaza, 15:30pm] – Today Israeli Occupation Forces attacked and boarded the Free Gaza Movement boat, the SPIRIT OF HUMANITY, abducting 21 human rights workers from 11 countries, including Noble laureate Mairead Maguire and former U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (see below for a complete list of passengers). The passengers and crew are being forcibly dragged toward Israel.

    “This is an outrageous violation of international law against us. Our boat was not in Israeli waters, and we were on a human rights mission to the Gaza Strip,” said Cynthia McKinney, a former U.S. Congresswoman and presidential candidate. “President Obama just told Israel to let in humanitarian and reconstruction supplies, and that’s exactly what we tried to do. We’re asking the international community to demand our release so we can resume our journey.”

    According to an International Committee of the Red Cross report released yesterday, the Palestinians living in Gaza are “trapped in despair.” Thousands of Gazans whose homes were destroyed earlier during Israel’s December/January massacre are still without shelter despite pledges of almost $4.5 billion in aid, because Israel refuses to allow cement and other building material into the Gaza Strip. The report also notes that hospitals are struggling to meet the needs of their patients due to Israel’s disruption of medical supplies.

    “The aid we were carrying is a symbol of hope for the people of Gaza, hope that the sea route would open for them, and they would be able to transport their own materials to begin to reconstruct the schools, hospitals and thousands of homes destroyed during the onslaught of “Cast Lead”. Our mission is a gesture to the people of Gaza that we stand by them and that they are not alone” said fellow passenger Mairead Maguire, winner of a Noble Peace Prize for her work in Northern Ireland.

    Just before being kidnapped by Israel, Huwaida Arraf, Free Gaza Movement chairperson and delegation co-coordinator on this voyage, stated that: “No one could possibly believe that our small boat constitutes any sort of threat to Israel. We carry medical and reconstruction supplies, and children’s toys. Our passengers include a Nobel peace prize laureate and a former U.S. congressperson. Our boat was searched and received a security clearance by Cypriot Port Authorities before we departed, and at no time did we ever approach Israeli waters.”

    Arraf continued, “Israel’s deliberate and premeditated attack on our unarmed boat is a clear violation of international law and we demand our immediate and unconditional release.”

    For more information contact:
    Greta Berlin (English)
    tel: +357 99 081 767 / friends@freegaza.org This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

    Caoimhe Butterly (Arabic/English/Spanish):
    tel: +357 99 077 820 / sahara78@hotmail.co.uk This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
    http://www.FreeGaza.org

    June 30th, 2009 by Ronald Hardy · 7 Comments
    Tags: Peace & Non-Violence · Social & Economic Justice

    7 responses so far ↓
    1 Haithem El-Zabri // Jun 30, 2009 at 9:31 am

    WHAT YOU CAN DO!

    CONTACT the Israeli Ministry of Justice
    tel: +972 2646 6666 or +972 2646 6340
    fax: +972 2646 6357

    CONTACT the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    tel: +972 2530 3111
    fax: +972 2530 3367

    CONTACT Mark Regev in the Prime Minister’s office at:
    tel: +972 5 0620 3264 or +972 2670 5354
    mark.regev@it.pmo.gov.il

    CONTACT the International Committee of the Red Cross to ask for their assistance in establishing the wellbeing of the kidnapped human rights workers and help in securing their immediate release!

    Red Cross Israel
    tel: +972 3524 5286
    fax: +972 3527 0370
    tel_aviv.tel@icrc.org

    Red Cross Switzerland:
    tel: +41 22 730 3443
    fax: +41 22 734 8280

    Red Cross USA:
    tel: +1 212 599 6021
    fax: +1 212 599 6009

  41. Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)

    Note: forwarded message attached. Dec. 8, 2006
    Knowing how sensitive for example the generally absent “9/11 Truth” activist Joe Carranza is about spelling, I want to correct a typo in my attached e-mail exposing Les Jamieson for the total fraud that he is. In the last paragraph the word “brownshorts”, referring to Geoffrey Blank’s armed thugs, should read “brownshirts.” Indeed, if the wacko, photographed “squat- ter” Carl Rosenstein had worn brown shorts, his club would have been visible.
    As far as reports of Frank Morales’ involvement in hard drug use and trafficking are con- cerned, I would think, since Jamieson presumably knows nothing about this matter (unless he is also involved) that, if only to protect himself legally, he follow the advice that he some- times whispers to me and to keep his mouth shut. Reports of drug use and trafficking involv- ing St. Mark’s-in-the-Bowery Assistant Pastor Morales should be investgated by the Episco- pal Church and by law enforcement. It’s bad enough that, in inviting Tarpley to speak, “9/11 Truth” was host to man associated with a convicted felon like Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.
    Tom Weiss – Member, St. Mark’s in-the-Bowery Church.

  42. Paul Isaac (sentinel)

    Comment from you tube video of Evolution of 9/11 Truth at St Mark’s posted by: Paula Gloria
     
    “This rare gem was passed to Paula Gloria by Joe Friendly and upon viewing got her interested in understanding not why Nico Haupt was a lunatic but what incredibly deep unmet need was at the basis of the tragic expressions that turned purportedly pro-investigation people to march lock-step along a predetermined understanding of what happened technically to bring down the towers during 9/11.  A few weeks after this turbulent meeting Dan Wallace died (or was killed) and “We Are Change” initiated when Luke and Les Jamieson, the leader of 9/11 “Truth” parted ways.  The newly formed “We Are Change” never met at St Marks and started to have a physical meeting space at Warren 12 while Les Jamison, under the watchful eye of Frank Morales the then Reverend of St Marks, remained at St. Marks initially organizing and raising money.  They illegally indicated people could have a tax write-off for donations to a political cause putting St Mark’s 501c3 at legal risk when raising money for the 9/11 Ballot initiative designed by Carl Person.  This initiative had the all important Office of City Attorney General included so that the required funding plan could be included; without it it would never fly.  Whoever wanted a real investigation to NOT happen realized the danger that Office of City Attorney General presented for not only 911 Truth but many other urgent wrongs, including our financial crisis.  Thus a certain Dr Pepper of shady background was put on the project to destroy it.  This was done by seducing Frank Morales and Les Jamieson the leader of 9/11 “Truth” with money IF the critical office of City Attorney General was removed from the ballot initiative (rendering it impossible to pass through the legal requirements).  It would never have a chance.  This was done against the wishes of the steering committee, proving yet again that all 9/11 truth at St Marks is done only by Les Jamieson and Frank Morales who despite being “retired” as Reverend still seems to be at St Marks running 9/11 meetings behind the scenes with a cadre of supporters.  It is worthy of note that Dr Pepper was accused of pedophilia in the Northeast (can someone out there give me more details?) and such accusations are supported by material in his own book “The Self Motivated Child”, showing he was perfect for a job that gives earnest and innocent truth seekers an eternally limited form of 9/11 truth.  Why do such practices still continue with questionable responsibility at St Marks under the hand of Frank Morales and Les Jamieson ensuring that real truth and the ensuing freedom that comes about in truth’s presence never develops?
    What is happening to 9/11 “Truth” at St Marks today?”

  43. Paul Isaac (sentinel)

    Paul Isaac (NYsentinel) Says:
    July 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
    (NYsentinel) Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
    paul isaac NYsentinel on June 19th, 2009 at 1:56 pm:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    lgf: Red and Green Anti-Semetism
    Max L 12/15/2003 11:22PM
    “Another wonderful eye-opener Charles. Check out this hate filled post I got on my site, I will edit out the foul words”.
    “Judebtot- you are a very sick person.erhaps someday YOU will be raped to death in prison like your terroris hero Irv Rubin. That would be nice. F#$% you you evil kike. You are a pestilence on the world. Go Die.” {2003-12-1600:1736} kidsjistainright [at] Yahoo.ca
    Oh, heres another one for the man who wants answers.
    #21 zulubaby 12-16-2003 12:29AM PST
    Max L (#12)
    “I just realized something! That E-mail address, kidsjistainright [at] yahoo.ca is DYLAN AVERY aka abe smoling aka shlom katz and a multitude of other jewish sounding names. HE IS A RABID JEW HATER and has posted tons of vicious slander about Charles on NAZIMEDIA. He even posted something about reporting (SNITCHING) me and Charles and deathberg to the Hate Crimes Branch of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. (Aside to Dylan Avery, if you’re reading this, it doesn’t say zulubaby on my passport, ya freak)”

    Reply

  44. Paul Isaac (sentinel)

    Paul Isaac (NYsentinel) Says:
    July 17th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
    o Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, bestiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.

    WTF !!!???

    “SATAN LAUGHING SPREADS HIS WINGS !!!”

  45. Paul Isaac (sentinel)

    Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, bestiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.

    Les Jamieson
    National Coordinator
    NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN

  46. Paul Isaac (sentinel)

    “My sources in the Obama Administration also inform me that Federal agents are planning a raid…”
    Les Jamieson | 13 April 2009

    “I personally sat down with local law enforcement…”
    Les Jamieson | 05.28.09 – 6:08 pm

    Les Jamieson
    National Coordinator
    NYC Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN

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